Trump’s most devastating 2020 weapon will be Bernie Bros, insiders say

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  • #302008

    JonLP
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    “Bernie Sanders supporters have been laying the groundwork for many of the lines of attack that the Trump campaign will be using against Joe Biden in the general,” a senior Trump campaign insider told The Post. “From his serial dishonesty, to his obvious issues, to his attempts to cut Social Security. We are going to have a field day.”

    During the 2020 primaries, nobody’s knives for Biden were sharper than Sanders’ rabid supporters online and in far-left media.

    Echoing critiques they made against Hillary Clinton in 2016, the Bernie Bros laced into Biden for being insufficiently left on a number of their core issues: healthcare, which they say would leave 10 million Americans uninsured as opposed to Sanders’ “Medicare for All”; Biden’s vote for the Iraq War in 2003, and his chumminess with billionaires and SuperPacs.

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    “We have a running tab here at Trump campaign headquarters of Mehdi Hassan’s many in-kind contributions,” laughed the campaign insider, saying Team Trump — which assiduously avoids using the D-word when talking about Biden — would never have put out something as audacious as Hasan’s video.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/04/11/trumps-most-devastating-weapon-will-be-bernie-bros-insiders/amp/

     

    I don’t like the NY Post headline but it is so predictable they are planning to attack Biden this way.

  • #302016

    Electrolyte Orchestra
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    That is the point of a primary. This notion that candidates shouldn’t point out differences, defend their positions and history, is idiotic.
    Do people think only Bernie supporters are able to research voting history, their public statements, positions on issues?
    Biden’s weaknesses exist with or without Sanders.

    • #302018

      JonLP
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      Plans to use the weaknesses pointed out by Sanders supporters against Biden in the general election. I voted for Bernie Sanders because I saw all this coming. It also disproves that Biden is the safe electable choice. Either way I’m voting Green and sitting back & watch them fight with each other as neither is for me.

      • #302290

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        Even without Bernie supporters and the progressive online media, GOP opposition research would certainly have uncovered and used everything we have discussed here and then some. It’s out there and has been for anyone with an inquiring mind who didn’t swallow the media swill…  hook, line and sinker.

        I view this as a way to sow more seeds of discord between us and the D establishment — as if that were possible — and blame us for Biden’s certain defeat. But frankly, I don’t care what establishment Dims say or whether Trumpettes cite us as their source. I will proudly say to any finger pointer: we told you so… you shunned and maligned us and our ideas in 2016, then learned nothing from that humiliating loss except how to cheat the primary voters in plain site.

        To them, I will also say Obama-Biden-Hillary gave us Trump in the first place, OWN IT and FUCK OFF!

  • #302020

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    either way i’m voting green and not responsible for the outcome.

  • #302021

    Mr. Mickeys Mom
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    When is this really going to surprise anyone, really? If issues were a candidate, then Bernie would win the primary again IF HE WAS ALLOWED.

    So, I get to vote on June 2nd with my write-in vote here in PA for Bernie. Based on seeing the way the primaries have gone since the beginning of the 2000’s the phantom issues on which most persons WISH they had in a Democratic candidate are silenced… so the Trump administration can use them?

    Boy.. I feel used.

    Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

  • #302023

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    Diseased. Insane. Briahna Joy Gray “admitted” to voting for Jill Stein, like she admitted committing a crime. See the framing here?

    Two things. First, it is our political system itself that is insane, corrupted to the point it cannot be accurately described as a representative democracy anymore. Look at the DNC, urging voters to expose themselves to a pandemic by voting in primaries while delaying their own nominating convention to protect their own precious asses.

    Second, if Bernie Sanders himself had questioned Joe Biden’s obvious mental unfitness to sit in the Oval Office as well as his rampant personal and family corruption, he might be the presumptive nominee and no one would be worrying about leftists voting for what they actually believe in by voting Green, or refusing to vote, or voting for Trump out of spite and disgust at the Democrats.

    And I didn’t even mention flagrant election fraud. Neither, of course, does the Post.

    It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

    If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

  • #302031

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    Refresh my memory – what is there to say about Biden that is good?  Even the “better than Trump” is quite questionable, if not incorrect.  And maybe this is the reason that will be given in order to jettison Biden and lube up and insert another Vichy Dem.  At this point, I cannot think of a single person, besides Bernie, that the Democrats could name, that I would vote for.

    • #302331

      Ohio Barbarian
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      @djean111 He has this soothing, comforting tenor in his voice in many of his speeches. My wife used to listen to him to put her to sleep when she had insomnia. Worked like a charm, too.

      And, just one more thing! Never mind. It’s just the one thing.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

  • #302037

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    The Biden camp has nothing else. Without the never Bernie crowd, there is no enthusiasm for Biden. They got to keep calling all of us names and blaming us for all of Biden’s all so spectacularly obvious faults to get the Biden voters out to the polls.

    Without the never Bernie crowd, there is no enthusiasm remaining for Biden. The only people who voted for Biden with any enthusiasm were those who hated Bernie, were afraid of socialism, the “he’s not Christian” voters and the filthy rich lovers. Take away Bernie,and his supporters, and you take away all the enthusiasm for Biden. They are willing to sacrifice their base voters to get a crazy coot to run as front man for the filthy rich.

    They already have a mentally deficient, sexual abusing, lying geriatric man for the filthy rich in Trump. So, why would anyone vote for a pale and failing version of Trump when they already have the real thing?

    Expect the Bernie Bashing to continue through the general election. It’s the only way the filthy rich can get the “enthusiastic” Biden voter out. Biden won’t just be running against Trump in the general, he’ll be  running against those awful Bernie Bros too, in order to remind the Biden voters why they voted for Biden in the first place.

    The hate for Bernie will continue despite the fact that Bernie is not running and he came out in support of Biden…

    • #302045

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      IMHO, of course. @fasttense

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

      • #302348

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        That was the last straw that compelled me to unsubscribe from Bernie’s mailing list, and I gave an explanation for that on the unsubscribe page. I posted about that on the older jackpineradicals forum. Basically, I said I didn’t donate so much money to Sanders, and work so long and hard canvassing for him, to have to accept being lied to in regards the warmonger Hillary Clinton.

        He had to endorse her, I got that, but he didn’t have to lie that she was some fantastic person. He was free to trash talk Trump, and even say that he was worse than Clinton, but I didn’t have to accept being emailed a pack of lies.

        Though to be fair, we now know that neither Bernie or his people wrote that email, it came directly from Clinton’s camp. Though just pasting his name on their garbage is still pretty uncool.

  • #302062

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    Catapult the propaganda now to try and make it ‘fact’ in the minds of democratic voters. The lesson being ‘Never ever think for yourselves, we party bosses know what is best for you!’

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    The dems are pre-blaming the Bernie Bros for Biden’s (potential) loss and the repukes are coming in to reinforce the divisions between progressives and establishment to further split the dem party.   The goal of both seems to be to place the blame of a Biden defeat on Bernie so it will make people more likely to fear insurgent candidates in the future so they will act like good little robots and stay within the two-party orthodoxy.

  • #302164

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    I know many/most of you aren’t, but why would anyone feel sheepish about being one of the instruments in bringing about a ( yet another ) DNC flame-out?

    I mean, they tell us to go shit in our hats every opportunity they get. I get to stick it to them through mere passive-aggressive inaction? Sign me up.

    All we’d get with them is more of Trump’s right-wing corporatist policies screwing us over…delivered in more eloquent, measured and polished tones, rather than the Trumps brazen buffoonery. Big whoop.

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    … will be Biden’s own shortcomings.

    That and the foolishness of a party that anointed him their candidate.

    If “Bernie Bros” had not said anything about Biden, his shortcomings would not have magically disappeared, and the Republicans would still have been able to find them.

  • #302347

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    🙂

    “Our operatives are scouring progressive forums where people have used ‘the google’, Wikipedia, and youtube, where they placed the name ‘Biden’ in the search field. They uncovered a secret treasure trove of opposition research that can be used against Joe Biden. Genius!”

    This article could have come from The Onion. lol

    “Damn you Sanders supporters! Now we’ve got Trump talking about adopting a few progressive economic measures! Are you happy now? Oh, God, where will this end? There’s no way to counter these diabolical moves you’ve helped bring about.”

    You gotta admire their steadfast adherence to third way anti progressive policy. We could be forgiven for thinking it came out of principle, and not just the habit of dancing to their donor’s tune, the way they so diligently fend off the agenda of the Sanders led movement .

     

  • #302386

    chknltl
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    ….about a party that can choose it’s nominee despite what the voters want. (Asks the guy who donated $1000 to Bernie’s 2016 campaign but chose not to waste more than $25 this time around).

    So when it comes to the Presidential nominees the party chooses…well they told me to fuck off, again, so I don’t mind returning the favor again.

    Now what is so difficult about that.

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