Tulsi Gabbard drops defamation lawsuit against Hillary Clinton
May 28, 2020 at 5:54 AM - Views: 96 #319754N2DocParticipant
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quite the snarkfest out of the Queen’s camp. Frankly, Tulsi deserves every last bit of it. What a disappointment she turned out to be.
May 28, 2020 at 6:03 AM #319756Pam2Participant
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That was one of the few highlights of this election season.
May 28, 2020 at 6:45 AM #319776
May 28, 2020 at 6:59 AM #319782elias39Participant
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What did you expect from Tulsi that you didn’t get? Small fish in a big and graying pond of sludge. Should she have gotten a shield and mask and gone all Wonder Woman on the establishment and the media? Her primary message was ‘no more regime-change wars’ which, evidently isn’t on the top of the list for most Americans who don’t give a shit about brown and black deaths overseas. They say you can’t fight city hall. Nor can you win at Warcraft without knowing the secrets.
I applaud Gabbard for trying to bring sanity to our foreign policy.
May 28, 2020 at 7:51 AM #319798N2DocParticipant
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Kind of destroyed any policy credibility she had.
May 28, 2020 at 11:11 PM #319971
Supposedly the Gabbard campaign experienced a pattern of bad communication from the Sanders campaign, and given what we now know about who ended up staffing it, I find that believable.
One could almost say that Gabbard was deliberately set up to drop out well before Sanders would so that she’d get all the early pushback from disappointed progressives. Tulsi could have kept appealing for donations, and made Sanders look like a quitter by comparison to some of us die-hards, but she chose to end things cleanly. She was recently selling off her campaign material like hats, shirts, decals, etc. for half price with all proceeds going to charity.
Finally, she is one of two Congresspeople from Hawaii, and it’s no small thing to represent them while campaigning in the primaries. She does have to travel back home so as to touch base. For her to keep taking money from a scant few diehards like myself so as to fund such expensive travel, especially since most Congresspeople went home, would be to end her campaign with a whimper rather than a bang.
The Coronavirus made it look like we’d get the situation that we do have now, one where Pelosi sent people home and Representatives aren’t in their offices. Home for Gabbard is Hawaii, and it’s a big deal to fly back and forth from there to the East coast of the USA.
If Bernie with his incredibly well funded campaign had signaled that he was staying in, then Gabbard would have had reason to continue to stay in, and get her message out. One last thing, she spoke up for Bernie when Warren basically called him a sexist. Bernie was one of the last to say that no, Gabbard wasn’t a Russian asset, and he said nothing when Gabbard was excluded from the New Hampshire Town Hall though she was polling really decently in New Hampshire, and in her stead Deval Patrick who was still polling at zero was allowed to take the last spot. That was total bull shit, but Gabbard was just an inconvenient woman for too many people for that injustice to get much press.
I guess some inside Sanders campaign saw an advantage in Gabbard getting taken out. They were wrong, as Bernie did better when Gabbard was a presence in the debates, but that’s another story, for another day, when we finally learn a lot more about why Sanders campaign was managed so poorly.
May 28, 2020 at 7:13 AM #319786
May 28, 2020 at 9:44 AM #3198393fingerbrownParticipant
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She shouldn’t have filed this suit then. And Clinton’s people then pissed on it with the Russian “good riddance” dig? WTF? Such a disappointing finish to several 2020 candidates this election has turned into!
All governments lie to their citizen's, but only Americans believe theirs.
May 28, 2020 at 11:22 PM #319974
Keeping the truth of that warmonger, Clinton, frequently brought up is never a bad thing. There’s a reason that the party hasn’t swapped Biden out for Her, even though Clinton has enormous resources and millions of supporters with a grudge that they’re eager to settle. People like Gabbard keep the less informed undecided voters continually aware of Clinton’s monstrous actions, and history of repeated crimes and venal choices.
Clinton’s loyalists will mock Gabbard, but Clinton is in line for no positions that she can use to hurt us, so I imagine that Gabbard sees that as a good trade-off. She exchanged her promising position at the DNC so as to expose its bias towards Sanders. She made a mortal enemy out of Clinton so as to raise awareness of the illegal devastation in Libya and Syria. She traded the opportunity to see the other anti-war candidate, Bernie, take a yooge hit from Warren in exchange for simply telling the simple truth that her experiences showed that Bernie wasn’t sexist.
May 29, 2020 at 2:11 AM #320022xyzseParticipant
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@babel17 I agree, which is why I can’t really fault her that much.
This whole 2020 Primaries, she was the attack dog for Bernie, but Bernie never really backed her up either. Which is one of the disappointments I found with him this cycle.
Her immediately endorsing Biden was a foregone conclusion, so it was not a shocking development for me. I just wish she waited longer, but again, her position was getting more and more marginalized as time went by.
A shame really, because like you said, she went balls-to-the-wall against the establishment with the actions you mentioned. By virtue of that alone, I feel sorry for her, since it seems like she just gave up defeated.
May 29, 2020 at 4:14 AM #320061
May 29, 2020 at 4:15 AM #320062
Anyone that ran against Bernie Sanders in 2020 is not a progressive.
Gabbard quote-tweeted a US-based psychiatrist from Kashmir, who shared a screenshot of an anonymous Facebook post with the comment: “Blatantly biased news & anti-Hindu propaganda has real-world consequences for innocent people.”
The anonymous Facebook post described an alleged encounter between two women and their Uber driver, who blamed Indian Hindus for “killing Muslims in New Delhi,” when he learned the women were Hindu. The driver then allegedly asked the women to get out of his car. BuzzFeed News has reached out to Gabbard and the woman she retweeted to find out more about the Facebook post, which could not be independently verified or located online.
Gabbard’s tweet has since been shared on right-wing news websites in India and discussed on news channels.
I looked at the lady Tulsi Gabbard just retweeted re rampant "Hinduphobia" in America and earlier today she shared something saying Bernie's campaign has been infiltrated by Islamists pic.twitter.com/RONuuxTUko
— Tom Gara (@tomgara) March 5, 2020
May 29, 2020 at 4:42 AM #320082
She recounted her experience of telling Bernie in January of 2019 that she was going to announce her run for the nomination, and he was supportive of that. That directly contradicted the import of what Elizabeth Warren tried to shame Sanders with, that he’d told her that a woman couldn’t get elected, implying that he was discouraging.
Imo, Gabbard’s statement was of yooge importance in defusing Warren’s statement, which was really catching on. A lot of progressive voters had to make a judgement call, and they believed Gabbard and sided with Bernie. Warren’s campaign never recovered. Imo that was directly tied to Gabbard having spoken up. And only Gabbard being still in the running gave her statement a lot of weight.
And let’s talk of Bernie’s yooge win in California, so many delegates! Had Gabbard not taken Kamala the Cop Harris out at the knees, Harris would have stayed in, maybe even done OK, but either way she’d have gotten a lot of those Californian delegates awarded to her.
Gabbard made it popular for Democratic voters to denounce warmongering. And Bernie definitely benefited from that, as he stood out in contrast to someone like Biden. And he got that benefit without having to take his good friend Joe Biden on about the war.
Gabbard reached out to swing voters who thought that, yeah, the Forever War is a big deal. Many probably previously voted for Trump over Clinton, and had Bernie managed to win the nomination, then Gabbard’s eventual inevitable enthusiastic endorsement of him could have pulled those voters away from Trump.
It’s not like all of the above could be bragged about Gabbard. But if Sanders had had better people around him, his campaign would have been able to really reap everything Gabbard had set up for progressive candidates to benefit from.
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