Tulsi Gabbard: Wake Up And Smell Our $6.4 Trillion Wars

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    • #232654
      Voltairine
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      Representative Tulsi Gabbard, long-shot candidate for president, is attacking her own party for promoting the “deeply destructive” policy of “regime change wars.” Gabbard has even called Hillary Clinton “the queen of warmongers, embodiment of corruption, and personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party.”

      Senator Chris Murphy complained:

      “It’s a little hard to figure out what itch she’s trying to scratch in the Democratic Party right now.”

      Some conservatives seem equally confused. The Washington Examiner’s Eddie Scarry asked:

      “where is Tulsi distinguishing herself when it really matters?”

      <u>The answer is that foreign policy “really matters.”</u>

      Gabbard recognizes that George W. Bush is not the only simpleton warmonger who’s plunged the nation into conflict, causing enormous harm. In the last Democratic presidential debate, she explained that the issue was “personal to me” since she’d “served in a medical unit where every single day, I saw the terribly high, human costs of war.” Compare her perspective to that of the ivory tower warriors of Right and Left, ever ready to send others off to fight not so grand crusades.

      The best estimate of the costs of the post-9/11 wars comes from the Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs at Brown University. The Institute says that $6.4 trillion will be spent through 2020. They estimate that our wars have killed 801,000 directly and resulted in a multiple of that number dead indirectly. More than 335,000 civilians have died—and that’s an extremely conservative guess. Some 21 million people have been forced from their homes. Yet the terrorism risk has only grown, with the U.S. military involved in counter-terrorism in 80 nations.

      https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tulsi-gabbard-wake-and-smell-our-64-trillion-wars

      During the 4everwar, the debt has gone up 10 Trillion, and with halving the bloated military budget and national security budget (which is national secret), all of that 10T could have been avoided. Petrodollar wars to protect Petrodollar empire has multiplied the debt, and failed to prevent dedollarization of world economy, on the contrary there’s strong argument that they have only succeeded in hastening the inevitable. Fracking causes huge ecological destruction, but fails to be economically profitable and depends from government subsidies. All of this self-destructive waste could have been used to transition to greener economy. US can’t afford empire, neither in foreign policy nor domestically.  The alternative to quick and soft as can be transition is very hard collapse.

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    • #232686
      Sorechasm
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      We can’t afford the emotional costs, let alone the financial burden.

      Only a naif would imagine that these wars will disappear absent a dramatic change in national leadership. Wrote Crawford:

      “The mission of the post-9/11 wars, as originally defined, was to defend the United States against future terrorist threats from al-Qaeda and affiliated organizations. Since 2001, the wars have expanded from the fighting in Afghanistan, to wars and smaller operations elsewhere, in more than 80 countries—becoming a truly ‘global war on terror’.”

      Imagine if we replaced but a fraction of our war-driven political will with a focus upon sustainable economic practices. That focus can be as simple as replacing top-down corporate rule, with local control, and strong social networks. Current technology has laid the groundwork. ‘If the people will lead, the leaders will follow.’

      “Go and tell Alexander that God the Supreme King is never the Author of insolent wrong, but is the Creator of light, of peace, of life, of water, of the body of man and of souls;...what Alexander offers and the gifts he promises are things to me utterly useless;..." Dandamis, a great sannyasi of Taxila.Excerpt From: Yogananda, Paramahansa. “Autobiography of a Yogi.”

    • #232713
      mindpilot
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      How clever to pretend you don’t know what she’s talking about Sen Murphy.

      Therein you have the exact problem that has kept the same headlines in the left press for the past three decades. The Democrats are completely incapable of any sort of self examination. In their circle, they are already perfection; if they are not winning elections, it’s some external factor to blame.

      The slogan of the Let’s Not Upset the Republicans Party should be “More! Of What Isn’t Working…”

       

       

      Slavery was the legal fiction that people can be property.
      Corporatism is the legal fiction that property can be people.

      "If you believe in god, I'm probably smarter than you." -- Tom Leykis

    • #232728
      ravensong
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      Gabbard accuses Trump of deceiving country on Afghanistan

      Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) on Wednesday accused President Trump of deceiving the American people in his pledge to quickly pull troops from Afghanistan and end the 18-year war in the country.

      Gabbard, an Iraq War veteran, for the second Democratic presidential debate in a row vowed a complete withdrawal of all U.S. troops from Afghanistan if elected president.

      She pointed to the Iraq War, a conflict that began after the George W. Bush administration asserted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein harbored weapons of mass destruction — a claim that turned out to be false.

      “We were all lied to. This is the betrayal. … The problem is that this current president continues to betray us,” Gabbard said during Wednesday night’s Democratic debate.

      https://thehill.com/policy/defense/455679-gabbard-accuses-trump-of-deceiving-country-on-afghanistan

      “A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority.” ~ Booker T. Washington

      The truth is, there’s no such thing as being “anti-Fascist.” Either you are a decent human being with a conscience, or you are a fascist.
      ~ Unknown

    • #232781
      bazukhov
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      Are we safe yet?

      Tell me, great captain, how do the angels sleep when the devil leaves his porch light on? Tom Waites

    • #232787
      MistaP
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      Greece, Italy, Syria, Iran, Laos, Guyana, Guatemala, Lebanon, Cuba, the Congo, Indonesia, Brazil, the Dominican Republic, Vietnam, Cambodia, Bolivia, Chile, Bangladesh, East Timor, Chad, Afghanistan, Angola, Mozambique, the Philippines, Turkey, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Panama, Iraq, Russia, Georgia, Honduras, Libya, and Ukraine

      not one of them even succeeded in their planners’ own terms; every one of them was about pursuing the whiff of borscht from our national bete noir

    • #232799
      Babel 17
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      I’m re-watching the Netflix series, The Punisher, and there’s no doubt in my mind that Tulsi has Frank Castle’s vote.

    • #232800
      ravensong
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      Tulsi Sept. 16, 2019

      Yesterday, President Trump offered to place our military, my brothers and sisters in uniform, under the command of Prince Mohammad bin Salman, the dictator of the Islamist kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

      Trump said: ‘We are locked and loaded but we are waiting to hear from the kingdom as to who they believe is the cause of this attack and under what terms we would proceed.’

      Now, Mr. President, as you know, I have never engaged in hateful rhetoric against you or your family, and I never will. But your offering our military assets to the dictator of Saudi Arabia to use as he sees fit is a betrayal of my brothers and sisters in uniform who are ready to give our lives for our country. Not for the Islamists dictator of Saudi Arabia.

      And for you to think that you can pimp out our proud servicemen and women to the Prince of Saudi Arabia is disgraceful. And it once again shows that you are unfit to serve as our commander in chief.

      As a member of Congress, as well as, a soldier, I and all of my brothers and sisters in uniform have take an oath to protect and defend the American people and the Constitution of the United States.

      There is nothing in our Constitution that gives you the power to go to war without the express consent of Congress, what to speak of giving you the power to offer our military to a foreign power, like the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to use as they wish.

      President Trump, your words and actions are a betrayal of my brothers and sisters in uniform, the American people and our Constitution.

      My fellow service members and I, we are not your prostitutes. You are not our pimp.

      Gabbard Claims Trump Is Turning the Military Into ‘Prostitutes’ Over Saudi Situation: ‘You Are Not Our Pimp.’

      “A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority.” ~ Booker T. Washington

      The truth is, there’s no such thing as being “anti-Fascist.” Either you are a decent human being with a conscience, or you are a fascist.
      ~ Unknown

    • #232818
      Ohio Barbarian
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      Murphy is typical of the MIC-friendly oligarchy. They’ve been mostly having things their own way with the foreign policy narrative for so long that they don’t know WTF to do when someone directly challenges that narrative, and they panic when it resonates with voters.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

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      sadoldgirl
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      Every member of Congress should wear a tag

      pronouncing which military contractor donated

      how much to their reelection coffers.

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