Tulsi Gabbard WILL RUN for President

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    • #11250
      caliny
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      https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/11/politics/tulsi-gabbard-van-jones/index.html

      I have decided to run and will be making a formal announcement within the next week,” the Hawaii Democrat
      told CNN’s Van Jones during an interview slated to air at 7 p.m. Saturday on CNN’s “The Van Jones Show.

      Gabbard, an Iraq War veteran, currently serves on the House Foreign Affairs Committee. She is the first American Samoan and the first Hindu member of Congress.

    • #11377
      David the Gnome
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      Awesome, unless Bernie runs, I know who I am voting for.  Now that she has declared  (well, not formally, but I don’t think that matters atm) I really hope Bernie makes a decision soon.

      Hmm.  Far as I’m concerned, that makes two worthy candidates, one of them being my second (a close second) favorite politician.  I like Warren, but I love Tulsi.  Absolutely fantastic.  The 2020 primaries should be interesting.

      No way an old putz like Biden beats those two.  Any real competition (from the “centrist” crowd) is more likely to come from Harris, or Gillibrand, possibly Booker.  May be a relatively unknown or three throwing their hats in, too.

      We will see, but as far as I’m concerned, this is great news.  Honestly, I think Tulsi is just the sort to deliver a knockout punch to the establishment.

    • #11398
      Snort McDork
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      Thrilled to read this news. If it came down to a choice between EW or Tulsi, I would vote for Tulsi in a nano-second. But I still like Bernie.

      Awsome news!!!

       

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      • #11413
        Joe Shlabotnik
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        That’s the most awesome cat .gif!

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        • #11436
          gordyfl
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          Out of the 20 or so candidates expected to run, I only like two – Elizabeth Warren and Tulsi. As of right now, I’m leaning slightly towards Tulsi. But, I’d be okay with EW as president.

          • #11470
            Cascadiance
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            I think another good news that is part of her announcement (and EW’s for that matter) is that it will be that much harder for the establishment to play the gender or other identity politics cards to try to steer us away from issues to look at when judging candidates, since they couldn’t play the gender card of EW or Tulsi versus Gillibrand or Harris for example.  Without the gender card, it would have been a lot harder for Hillary to have kept the last race close.

            We still need to keep the topics on issues.  I really loved Tulsi on many of her ways last election of trying to steer conversation against the establishment electioneering in many situations.  But I do want to really study her past that much more to make sure that she has evolved herself from some of her questionable history of the past, and to feel like I really know her well before getting on her bandwagon like I did with Bernie, who’s been consistent in his views that were always on the side I could support even from the days when he was a young college student in protests.

            https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/05/tulsi-gabbard-president-sanders-democratic-party

      • #11471
        ozoneman
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        I think Bernie will run. Furthermore, I predict a Bernie/Tulsi ticket.

        • #11473
          gordyfl
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          Tulsi’s announcement ruffled quite a few feathers at that “other website”. They also don’t give her any chance of winning.

          I’m currently a registered Democrat (thanks to Bernie). I think this is going to be a wild Primary, again.

    • #11399
      Babel 17
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      Her credibility makes her a stand-out.

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      Babel 17
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      Signatures are disabled for now? Here’s the link I have in mine.

      https://www.votetulsi.com/bumper-stickers/free

       

    • #11407
      glinda
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      I am for Bernie and yes….I am for Tulsi. Sort of wish it was Bernie/Tulsi. That would be phenomenal.

      Animals know more than we do.

    • #11411
      3fingerbrown
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      Great news! Someone I could vote for if Bernie decides not to run.

      All governments lie to their citizen's, but only Americans believe theirs.

    • #11416
      Nick Xylas
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      I actually kind of hope that Bernie doesn’t run now. I worry that he might split the progressive vote and hand the nomination over to Groper Joe or some other centrist horror, thus guaranteeing a second Trump term.

      “The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.” -Julius Nyerere

      • #11420
        Pastiche
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        You may not be at the right website.

        This website was built for Bernie’s supporters.

        “We’re about to have an election in which Incompetent A is going to be contesting with Incompetent B when both of them have demonstrated nothing remotely like any shred of adequacy to the scope of the problems we face.”

        Richard Wolff

        • #11423
          Nick Xylas
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          It was built for people who supported him in 2016. It doesn’t mean we have to be blindly loyal to him forever, whatever the circumstances. Bernie said he was trying to start a movement, not a personality cult. If Tulsi runs on a platform of Medicare for All, a $15 minimum wage, and free college tuition, I don’t see any reason to oppose her just because it’s Bernie’s “turn” (now, where have I heard that before?)

          “The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.” -Julius Nyerere

          • #11435
            gordyfl
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            Tulsi: “I am truly honored to nominate Bernie Sanders for President of the United States”….

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzMZOVSy7Cw

             

          • #11437
            djean111
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            If by “oppose her” you mean abandon Bernie for her, you really are at the wrong website.

            “I don’t see any reason to oppose her just because it’s Bernie’s “turn” (now, where have I heard that before?)”

            You are, weirdly, trying to equate Bernie’s supporters with hillbots.  Newsflash – Bernie, on the issues I care about, is better than Tulsi or Warren.   With a lot more experience.  And “platforms” don’t mean anything.  Campaign rhetoric.  We have learned all about that.  So I think perhaps you should stop with the lame insults, because they don’t do the candidate you are pushing any good.

            No one here is “blindly loyal”.  FFS, we actually pay attention to issues and records.   And do not respond to insults in the way you are evidently hoping.

      • #11499
        Ohio Barbarian
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        I am not worried about that. If anything, Tulsi will bring disastrous imperial American foreign policy into the spotlight, and she would probably drop out and throw her support to Bernie, or vice-versa, before she or he went after each other’s throats.

        It is far more likely there will be more corporatist candidates in the Democratic primary than progressive ones, and thus more likely that their support will be more divided than that of progressives.

        It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #11433
      gordyfl
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      Tulsi: “There are a lot of reasons for me to make this decision. There are a lot of challenges that are facing the American people that I’m concerned about and that I want to help solve,” she said in an interview that will air on Saturday.

      “There is one main issue that is central to the rest, and that is the issue of war and peace.”

      https://nypost.com/2019/01/11/tulsi-gabbard-announces-she-will-run-for-president-in-2020/

      (I don’t expect Bernie to run but he’ll support Tulsi all the way)

       

       

      • #11458
        Nick Xylas
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        I think so too. It wouldn’t surprise me if Tulsi consulted with Bernie to see if he was running before launching her campaign.

        “The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.” -Julius Nyerere

      • #11479
        Nick Xylas
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        I didn’t attack anybody, though my comments seem to have struck a nerve nonetheless. I expressed a worry that Bernie running now that Tulsi has already announced could split the progressive vote, and you told me that I was “at the wrong site” because I had expressed support for Bernie’s policies rather than Bernie himself. I’m sorry, but that does sound like Hillbots talking about “turns”. Bernie is great, and was the only good option in 2016. He might not be the only good option in 2020, and I don’t see why the progressive movement should put all its eggs in one basket.

        Edit: that was supposed to be a reply to post #11437. For some reason, the forum software wouldn’t put my post in the right place in the thread.

        “The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.” -Julius Nyerere

        • #11493
          djean111
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          That old “struck a nerve” thing – implying that those of us who do not swoon over Gabbard are like hillbots – his turn?  Where have I heard that before? – does not so much strike a nerve as make me register distaste – for the remark, and a bit towards a candidate who has that kind of cheerleader, taking a page from the SV book.

          I don’t think you are worried about eggs being in one basket – perhaps you just want all of those eggs in Gabbard’s basket.  In any event, to express “concern” about Bernie running, now that Gabbard has announced – IMO you are hoping she weakens his position before he even declares anything.

          Personally, Obama was a wondrous lesson in the dangers of swooning over a bright shiny relatively new politician.  Issues – below in this thread are some things about Gabbard I do not like at all.  And gee, what is the problem with having a guy who looks to be the most popular politician in the US, even if you don’t care about prior records and the issues?  Maybe Gabbard only endorsed Bernie in order to position herself for 2020.  And putting war and peace as the most important thing – does not bode well for inequality and social platforms.  IMO.

          Also, I think my days of jumping on a bandwagon are over, 2016 killed that particular kind of enthusiasm, at least for new candidates.  Add to that – the DNC says that it does not have to accept the results of the primaries, or even guarantee the primaries are fair.  So I will just vote, this time around.  And use my local influence, such as it is, to advise others of my acquaintance.

           

           

          • #11500
            Ohio Barbarian
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            Anyone who thinks you are a bandwagon-jumper, Djean111, might also be inclined to think that the sun rises in the west.

            It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

            Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

          • #11589
            sadoldgirl
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            To djean:Sorry, but I disagree totally. I joined JPR from the beginning

            on, and there was no ”Loyalty Oath” for Bernie. We were independents,

            Demexits, Greens, and others. What united us were the issues. And

            I still think that Bernie made a mistake by not helping the Greens.

            If you think that a peace candidate would be bad for social issues, then

            I beg you to remember that more than half of the budget  is applied

            to our war departments. Peace is the necessary demand to stop

            the empire from failing totally. And, if you recall, I have been

            a sharp critic of Bernie’s foreign policy from the beginning on.

            His demand from our “allies” to help with the wars in the ME,

            as well as his attitude towards Putin are not helpful in the

            least. Unlike Bernie, Tulsi served and visited Syria on her own.

            If, as I believe, we are not going to stop Climate Change, then

            at least let us work for peace and transfer part of that idiotic

            amount of money away from the killing machine towards

            our own people.

        • #11719
          eridani
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          On splitting the progressive vote.  IMO, getting progressive talking points comes first.  The PTB will have a hard time ignoring Tulsi, Bernie and Elizabeth (who is at least progressive on the bankster issue}.

          Jesus: Hey, Dad? God: Yes, Son? Jesus: Western civilization followed me home. Can I keep it? God: Certainly not! And put it down this minute--you don't know where it's been! Tom Robbins in Another Roadside Attraction

    • #11484
      ZimInSeattle
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      Got email from her last night announcing her run. Clicked on the link included https://www.tulsi2020.com/

      It takes you to a website with one page with picture of her and donate/volunteer buttons. No other links to her platform, where she stands on the issues, etc. I took this to mean I’m supposed to support her because she’s good looking. (And she is smokin’ HOT! IMO)  I have read she supported the Muslim ban and does not want Syrian refugees coming here. I think everyone needs to take a step back. She is often on FOX news, is a friend to Sheldon Adelson, apparently has kissed Bibi’s ring on Israel, Trump and Putin love her. So color me skeptical. Still, she may in the end be the best option.

      "Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime" - Aristotle "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine" - George Bernard Shaw "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK #SurviveAndRevolt

    • #11501
      Bluesuedeshoes
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    • #11510
      PFunk
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      Sanders-if he decides to fun is still my solid first choice in 2020.  But now a least I have a second choice now.  And having a Sanders/Gabbard ticket would also be great.

      Unfortunately there is the DNC establishment who still seems hell bent to but Beto in that spot.

    • #11530
      David the Gnome
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      Might take a bit for a proper campaign site.  I am not familiar with her views on Trump’s  Muslim ban, or how she feels about Sheldon Adelson or the Likud.  Those things could certainly impact my choice, will have to do some reading.

      She was a strong supporter of Bernie Sanders.  Most of what I have heard and read of her I like.  Wasnt aware of those other things.

      On the other hand – SV hates her, which is a good sign.

    • #11539
      bazukhov
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      She’ll do.  And, I’ll have no trouble voting for her if she wins the nomination.

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    • #11551
      Sorechasm
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      She’s not only against stupid wars, she knows why they are stupid, and determined to stop them.

      “Go and tell Alexander that God the Supreme King is never the Author of insolent wrong, but is the Creator of light, of peace, of life, of water, of the body of man and of souls;...what Alexander offers and the gifts he promises are things to me utterly useless;..." Dandamis, a great sannyasi of Taxila.Excerpt From: Yogananda, Paramahansa. “Autobiography of a Yogi.”

    • #11711
      Mr. Mickeys Mom
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      I’ve been thinking about this ever since Tim Black’s Freedom Friday livestream last night, and THIS makes the best sense for a successful Tulsi Gabbard presidency (which I support)…

      Since the DNC would waste NO time screwing a progressive out of the primaries as they did in 2016 with Bernie, I think it makes sense to have several progressives running, not including Bernie. This is because I believe even a quasi progressive like EW would promote real issues to be discussed with a real debate schedule with TG.

      It would be my preference for Tulsi to win the nomination…. THEN bring Bernie Sanders in as her VP.

      THE WINNING TICKET is TG-BS. I think he prefers it that way, in fact. He has even said he didn’t really want to run, but there was no one else. He surely see there IS someone now with Tulsi Gabbard. Anyway, that’s what I think.

      Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

    • #12388
      eridani
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      She doen’s have a chance in hell.  Homophobic past won’t get her past the primary.

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