U.S. 'deeply concerned' about untrackable China ships carrying Iran oil: officials

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    Ohio Barbarian
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    Today’s Village Idiot is the United States Government:

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The White House is warning Chinese shipping companies against turning off their ships’ transponders to hide Iranian oil shipments in violation of U.S. sanctions, two senior administration officials said.

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    On Sept. 25, the U.S. imposed sanctions on five Chinese individuals and two Chinese COSCO Shipping Corp subsidiaries, saying they had shipped Iranian crude oil in violation of the sanctions.

    Days later, 14 COSCO Shipping Tanker (Dalian) vessels, about one-third of its fleet, stopped sending location data from their automatic identification system (AIS) between Sept. 30 and Oct. 7, ship tracking data on Refinitiv Eikon showed.

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    The International Maritime Organization requires vessels to use transponders for safety and transparency. Crews can turn off the devices if there is a danger of piracy or similar hazards. But transponders are often shut off to conceal a ship’s location during illicit activities.

    Full idiocy here. 

    Really? You think? Whaddaya gonna do about it, Donny Boy? Huh? Huh?

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  • #187767

    N2Doc
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    You mean our vaunted military and spy agencies, which we spend over a trillion dollars a year on, can’t track gigantic ships across the open seas?

    • #187777

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      @n2doc Not without transponders they can’t. Not easily. One has no idea just how big an ocean is until one has sailed across one. I have, and I can tell you the Pacific and Indian Oceans are in fact very big waters, far bigger than that tiny little pond called the Caribbean that Trump said was so big. It’s easy for even a supertanker to avoid detection unless someone gets very lucky. Even satellites can only do so much.

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        dear @ohiobarbarian – I have done a lot of research cruises in the major ocean basins. However, I also know there are satellites that have  sensors that can even see through cloud cover. So I don’t buy it. We have civilian satellites that take pictures of the entire hemisphere every day. And I would bet real money that we have satellites devoted to tracking ships- after all, how would we keep track of the Russian fleet?

        If we can’t do this with a relative handful of ships that turn off their transponders then we really are dumb.

        • #187857

          Ohio Barbarian
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          @n2doc I’m not going to argue the point. I just remember not knowing where the Russian fleet was circa 1990, satellites and all. Anyway, what would we do even if we did track them? Stop Chinese tankers with warships? Naw. Won’t happen.

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  • #188024

    GZeusH
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    Not ‘deeply concerned’ about citizens having to drink lead in their tap water, but with somebody else’s ships halfway around the world.  Is we great again yet?

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