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  • Jefferson23 (4827 posts)
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    US Government Tries and Fails to Play Media Critic on RT

    * I’m not an RT fan..not sure anyone really is any more than I’m a fan of  the NYT. Regardless, this review is spot on, imo…the idea you’re not capable of discerning information across a spectrum is ludicrous in light of our corporate msm. No, I am not saying ours is a bad as Russian state sponsored news b/c its not, but our agencies certainly lack honesty/transparency…..glass houses and all that.

    The much-anticipated Office of the Director of Intelligence (DNI) Report—the combined assessment of the CIA, FBI, DHS and others—on alleged attempts by Russia to influence the 2016 election was released on Friday to a combination of uncritical boosting and underwhelmed perplexity. To many, it was further proof of Russia’s involvement in the DNC and Podesta hacks; to others–even to typically bullish Daily Beast–it was remarkably thin on details and evidence.

    As the New York Times (1/6/16) noted in paragraph five of their report on the release, “The declassified report contained no information about how the agencies had collected their data or had come to their conclusions.” The Guardian (1/6/16) conceded that the report itself “lacks detail.” So what was in it?

    Filler, mostly. Indeed, the most bizarre part about the release was that it dedicated considerable effort—approximately 40 percent of the report’s content—to the Kremlin-financed Russia Today cable network. Skimming the PDF, one could easily miss the notation buried at the bottom of page six that this section was, in fact, cut and pasted from a 2012 paper on RT from the Open Source Enterprise, a federal intelligence office “dedicated to collecting, analyzing and disseminating publicly available information of intelligence value” (Secrecy News, 10/28/16).

    remainder: http://fair.org/home/us-government-tries-and-fails-to-play-media-critic-on-rt/

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  • ThouArtThat (4046 posts)
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    1. Agree To Disagree – RT America Has Some Of The Best And Most Honest

    Reporting about the US available today.

    "In America Today, Power Corrupts and Money Corrupts Absolutely" - Anonymous  
    • Jefferson23 (4827 posts)
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      2. That's your prerogative, of course..but to me its more about not

      being afraid of looking at everything…we can make judgements about all and do not have to trust or fear all of them based on their point of origin.

      • ThouArtThat (4046 posts)
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        7. Others See The World Differently

        eom

        "In America Today, Power Corrupts and Money Corrupts Absolutely" - Anonymous  
  • bemildred (3492 posts)
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    3. Why Crowdstrike’s Russian Hacking Story Fell Apart 2 The DNI Report Faked Source

    The only thread that holds the DNI report together at first glance is the false testimony and fake evidence Crowdstrike and Dmitri Alperovitch provided to the FBI and other agencies involved. When you look at the evidence presented and the sources it becomes evident that the Russian hack story doesn’t stand up against Crowdstrike’s own facts.

    By examining facts, timelines, and sources needed for the DNI report, the only conclusion is the DNI report is strictly political. Because of this Craig Murray- Julian Assange’s story showing the emails were leaked is the only version of the story that stands. The facts on hand show criminality and negligence on the part of Crowdstrike, the FBI, and the DNI.

    The Murray and Assange story stands on evidence  many heavyweights in the Intel community are backing up their account as the only way the emails could have gotten to Wiki Leaks.

    The DNI report uses of information obtained by self-identifying Ukrainian neo-nazis (Pravy Sektor members). For US Intel to offer this proof of Russian involvement is really bizarre. While heading 17 Intel agencies, the DNI was not concerned enough about Russia hacking or influencing the 2016 election to look into. Why is it that during the 10 days following the election, James Clapper knew so little about the subject?

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2017/01/crowdstrikes-russian-hacking-story-fell-apart-2-dni-report-faked-sources.html

    It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
    • Jefferson23 (4827 posts)
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      5. Lots of great questions considering so many holes to fill. I say this, Snowden

      imo, is an honest guy..might be naive about Putin in the past, yea..but what he said about the NSA being able to know what occurred holds true. That said, the NSA is only down for “moderately” convinced of Russian influence.

       

      Thanks for the link, good stuff.

      • bemildred (3492 posts)
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        6. I think a couple more are coming, still reading …

        My it is a real shitstorm. Here we thought things would settle down after the election.

        It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
        • Jefferson23 (4827 posts)
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          14. The Golden Showers show is somethig else…the irony is richer than anything

          I have ever witnessed. Trump infiltrated the Republican Party via the birther agenda and in addition capitalized on all the failures of the elite in each party….looks like he may be set against a political agenda that will make his own strategies look like a romp through the park. lol

          That said, I don’t put much past Putin, he is an opportunist like any of them looking for an advantage where he can, but trying is not the same as succeeding. Where is the beef, NSA etc… same as the other issue…put up and declassify or do not expect credibility. But there is the problem isn’t it and the irony..who here will be honest? So many agendas…amazing.

          • bemildred (3492 posts)
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            16. Well, not since the 60s anyway.

            I’m not afraid of Putin. He’s a smart cookie, minimalist and pragmatist, not unlike how Obama started out, and nobody is going to twist his arm. He may or may not be an asshlole, but he won’t do stupid stuff. I’m still waiting to see what Mr. Trump does, it won’t take long to see the picture, like Frank says.

            Your comments about Trump’s methods are acute.

            It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
            • Jefferson23 (4827 posts)
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              17. It's going to be quite a show, yep.

    • OzoneTom (860 posts)
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      10. Thanks for the link to that piece

      It does tie a lot together around various parts that have never smelled right.

      Pleased to have matching hands and feet.
      • bemildred (3492 posts)
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        12. I am only the vehicle, the vessel, of truth.

        :hi:

        I stopped trying to make sense of things, it’s futile and it makes you feel bad. Now I just surf the wave of chaos as it engulfs us.

        It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
  • bemildred (3492 posts)
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    4. The Deep State Versus Donald Trump – New Smears And A Ukrainian Connection

    As remarked on January 6:

    When Hillary Clinton was defeated in the U.S. presidential election the relevant powers launched a campaign to delegitimize the President elect Donald Trump.

    The ultimate aim of the cabal is to kick him out of office and have a reliable replacement, like the Vice-President elect Pence, take over. Should that not be possible it is hoped that the delegitimization will make it impossible for Trump to change major policy trajectories especially in foreign policy. A main issue here is the reorientation of the U.S. military complex and its NATO proxies from the war of terror towards a direct confrontation with main powers like Russia and China. The “deep state” campaign against Trump opened new grounds today with the publication of completely fake and thereby unverifiable anonymous assertions that Trump had some fun in a Moscow hotel and that Russian secret services is using that to manipulate him.

    The “deep state” campaign against Trump opened new grounds today with the publication of completely fake and thereby unverifiable anonymous assertions that Trump had some fun in a Moscow hotel and that Russian secret services is using that to manipulate him.

    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/01/the-deep-state-versus-donald-trump-new-smears-and-a-ukrainian-connection.html#more

     

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  • bemildred (3492 posts)
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    8. The Alleged Trump-Putin “Golden Shower” Fiasco, Explained

    by T.A. Frank

    Are claims that Russia is blackmailing the president-elect a bombshell, or more anti-Trump hysteria? We’ll know soon enough.

    I’m not even going to try to offer a joke about the bed-wetting that Donald Trump is now alleged by unknown sources to have ordered up in a Moscow hotel room; Twitter has about 70,000 jokes already, and, while many of them are pretty funny, supply at this point exceeds demand. So, in brief: BuzzFeed has released a collection of memos penned by an unnamed former British spook alleging that Trump’s campaign was collaborating with Russia against Hillary Clinton and that Trump is vulnerable to blackmail by Moscow because of secret financial ties to Russia and because of his sexual activities during a visit there. Got that? We also read in The Guardian that the F.B.I. applied for a warrant from the foreign-intelligence surveillance (FISA) court to monitor contacts between four Trump campaign members and Russian officials. The court rejected the request as too broad, and reportedly, months later, granted a narrower one.

    So, what to make of it all? God only knows. It’s either a bombshell or yet another gasp of anti-Trump hysteria, and we’ll probably have a sense of which it is pretty soon. Apparently, the author of the damning memos was originally hired by NeverTrump Republican donors to do opposition research on Trump and then hired by pro-Clinton donors to keep doing opposition on Trump. Then someone—we don’t know who—started shopping around the memos to journalists, many of whom said no thanks. The documents found their way into the hands of John McCain, who then passed them on to the F.B.I., and then a two-page summary of the memos got presented to President Barack Obama and to Donald Trump. According to CNN, which first reported that Trump was briefed last week on the synopsis, the nation’s top intelligence officials wanted the president-elect to know that the information was circulating in Washington and that they were looking into the claims. Lots of the allegations made are specific—such as a meeting alleged to have taken place between Trump lawyer Michael Cohen and a Russian contact in Prague—and therefore easy to debunk if false. (Cohen flatly denied that he met with any Russians, or that he has ever been to Prague.) But we’ll just have to wait and see. In the meantime, we’ll have to try to sort out who might want what.

    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/trump-russia-report-explained

    It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
  • bemildred (3492 posts)
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    9. The adventures of Donald Trump at Moscow's Ritz Hotel

    The story about the compromising information that the Kremlin has allegedly collected about Donald Trump looks increasingly absurd. The story started unfolding after the FBI announced that it had evidence to prove that the new President of the United States was Putin’s agent.

    The body of evidence on the subject is based on a video footage that shows Donald Trump in a company of prostitutes at The Ritz Hotel in Moscow. In the video, Trump supposedly asks the prostitutes to urinate on the bed, on which Barack Obama had slept.

    Needless to say that no one has seen the video, but the story per se is definitely a bombshell.

    Generally speaking, American policy makers have a serious obsession about natural bodily functions. Last year, for example, it was reported that an unidentified individual, presumably a Russian intelligence officer, defecated on the carpet in an apartment of an American diplomat. Of course, no evidence was presented whatsoever.

    ww.pravdareport.com/world/americas/11-01-2017/136602-donald_trump_compromising_information-0/

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  • bemildred (3492 posts)
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    11. No, That Trump/Russia Dossier Isn’t an Elaborate 4chan Hoax

    Despite rumors being spread on pro-Donald Trump and alt right websites, there is no evidence that the document posted by Buzzfeed detailing a supposed link between Trump and Russia is an elaborate 4chan hoax.

    Townhall, for example, published a piece titled “Did 4Chan Troll The CIA?” which was later picked up by the Drudge Report alongside posts from conspiratorial and alt-right sites. By Wednesday, it was gospel among the Trump faithful that 4chan was behind it all.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/no-that-trumprussia-dossier-isnt-an-elaborate-4chan-hoax/

    It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
  • saneblane (144 posts)
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    13. I disagree with this post. RT gives me the best news that I could get

    Even the BBC has started to slant news and spin it to fit a certain narrative, Oh and BBC is state sponsored news also, just like CBC in Canada and many other papers and media rooms across the globe and no one is questioning them. Apart from the issue of state interference I think the most troubling thing about this whole issue is the Democrats are trying to say that government sponsored news is propaganda, it’s the same tired old argument of “government is bad and private ownership is good”, but it’s more sad that the Democrats are the ones pushing that argument.

    • Jefferson23 (4827 posts)
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      15. We have unprofessional journalism too..no doubt. For a little perspective,

      the voice of dissent in Russia is small, but it exists, they do not appreciate Putin, he is not a benevolent guy running fair elections etc, so from their point of view, RT America lends legitimacy to him the opposition are not pleased about. I can totally understand their perspective..its an uphill battle for them..RT America is not shown in Russia, btw.