US Has No Moral Standing to Criticize Russia or China

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    • #418754
      Passionate Progressive
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      President Joe Biden and his Secretary of State Antony Blinken are worried about Russian Putin critic and presidential aspirant, currently in a Russian prison after conviction on charges of skipping bail and leaving the country and other charges, being abused and at risk of dying in jail.

      That threat may or may not be real, but US objections to Russia’s treatment of a political rival or dissident, like US objections to China’s harsh treatment of democracy advocates and former democratic members of Hong Kong’s now crushed and no longer autonomous Legislative Assembly would carry a lot more weight, and be far less laughable around the globe if these two leaders would also be demanding decent treatment and release from prison of political prisoners who have been getting abused, degraded and denied adequate medical treatment at the hand of the US “justice system.”

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      The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

      It takes all the technical proficiency our system can provide to make up for the woeful lack of popular support and political savvy of most of the regimes that the West has thus far sought to prop up.........Bernard Fall

    • #418763
      KenTankerous
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      "If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States."
      - Henry A. Wallace
      (FDR's Vice President until he was forced out by the corrupt forces of obscene wealth.)

    • #418799
      HassleCat
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      The Big Three Big Mouths (USA, Russia, China) like to fling shit at each other. None of them occupy the moral high ground, but they think making the others look bad makes them look better. I think it’s mostly for domestic consumption, to pacify the nationalists at home. It also provides a reason to build more military capability, something none of them really need to “defend” themselves.

      • #418818
        Yanath
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        The US is a genuine threat to Russian and Chinese national security. Its actions during the last thirty years demonstrate it conclusively. It is a violent expansionist power while China and Russia are not. It is the US, that is fomenting violent revolution in countries neighboring Russia, and conducting military exercises in the South China Sea while the Pentagon labels China a threat when they haven’t done anything.

        I can understand how the average propaganda-addled American sees equivalence between the US and other powers, but an informed progressive should be able to see the truth.

        • #418839
          Earthartist
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          Really Hassel? what have China and Russia said or done that is completely made up out of thin air?   On the other hand when has the US gone into war with out coming up with some total BS to get Americans all riled up? In my life time this country has bombed and couped more countries then I can count. Russia? China?  When either of these countries have had battles it has been on their boarders and the CIA has been involved in every one. So no the three big Mouths doesn’t work one big mouth with 900 little fangs surrounding Russia and China more like it.

          Earthartist

      • #418840
        Passionate Progressive
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        the moral superiority flag while at the same time imposing life-threatening sanctions on other countries and/or denying other countries opportunities to obtain COVID and other needed medications

        The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

        It takes all the technical proficiency our system can provide to make up for the woeful lack of popular support and political savvy of most of the regimes that the West has thus far sought to prop up.........Bernard Fall

      • #418847
        3fingerbrown
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        No, one country needs to shut the fuck up first and foremost and it is the one with 800 military bases all over the world, involved in 7 wars of aggression, regularly breaks international treaties, loots, pillages, and sanctions other nations every chance it gets over endless lies, has already nuked another country and still thinks nuclear war is winnable, spends 10 times more on its war budget than the next 10 countries combined, and in fact more money on its police forces than its no.1 “enemy” does on its total defense budget, and cares so little of its own citizens it will let hundreds of thousands of them die during a pandemic in order to protect corporate profits. And that’s just for starters.

        All governments lie to their citizen's, but only Americans believe theirs.

        • #418903
          PolecatHollerer
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          If you give a man enough rope, it will be six inches too short. This is not the nature of rope- it is the nature of man.

    • #418803
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      The Three Big Mouths!

      I like it!

      We’re all big mouths, why not become big-mouth allies?

    • #418883
      closeupready
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      ROFL, I mean, the jokes really write themselves.

      The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

    • #418890
      Earthartist
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      Again I would disagree Close up.  Putin and Xi have shown amazing leadership, bringing their countries from the brink back amazing modern cities, low poverty and good infrastructure.  They have not taken their peoples money and spent it all on the Military, but rather on education infrastructure, and healthcare. They have not spent it sewing seeds of hate for america, and the uk. That alone is amazing. Both leaders have made cutting poverty the most important thing. Can you ever imagine the US saying much less doin this? They have not chosen to build bases bomb the hell out of most of the world.  So ye I hold these two up has great leaders and wish there were a lot more in the world!

      Earthartist

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