US invited to station troops & rocket systems in Ukraine in potential major escalation of tense standoff across border with Russia

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      jbnw
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      Well, that’s just dandy. From https://www.rt.com/russia/531653-reznikov-invited-us-deploy-military/ :

      A top Ukrainian politician has called on Washington to deploy its military, including army units and air defense systems, to the troubled Eastern European nation, in what would undoubtedly be seen by Moscow as a grave provocation.

      In a statement issued on Tuesday, Deputy Prime Minister Alexey Reznikov revealed he had made the request as part of a visit to the United States, during a meeting with the Jamestown Foundation, a think-tank which the Russian government has previously accused of spreading propaganda against the country.

      “It is important to expand the security package for Ukraine,” Reznikov said. “First of all, with the stationing of air defense forces, and even by deploying American units.” The politician added that Ukrainian legislation already allows for foreign troops to be based in the country.

      Russia has repeatedly said that the presence of US military personnel on its borders with Ukraine would be a major red line in the simmering political conflict between the two nations. In February, Kiev called on NATO to begin flying warplanes and troop transports near the disputed Crimean Peninsula. Moscow has insisted that such moves are “provocative” and increase the chances of a potentially catastrophic incident, undermining regional stability.

      First thought is that while it’s a senior politician, it’s not law – but apparently the Rada already has provisions in place.

      A Russian Duma member commented on those claiming that Russia may place nuclear missiles in Crimea as a reason should see “a psychotherapist” rather than making appeals to the West.

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      Jan Boehmerman
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      I say FUG Alexey Reznikov!

    • #439647
      beemerphill
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      Does anyone else have a bad feeling about this? Are our “leaders” looking for another place to piss away American lives and taxpayer money, or are they just that stupid?  Anyone with an IQ above room temperature can figure out that this will have NO happy ending.

      beemerphill

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      Ohio Barbarian
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      The United States and Western Europe are not going to go to war with Russia over Ukraine. The kleptocracy is willing to sell them weapons, and to be a thorn in Russia’s side, but they’re not going to risk a nuclear war over the Ukrainians, no matter what the rhetoric says.

      Meanwhile, most Ukrainians are getting sick of this shit, and that government is in political trouble.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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        jbnw
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        but I do not trust Joe or Joe’s handlers. The US government doesn’t want a stable Ukraine – if they did, they’d have pressed Ukraine to implement the Minsk accords after the revolution and following civil war Joe instigated, and invisible in today’s news.

        Yes, the Ukrainians I know are sick of it. The native language for many of them is not recognized (Russian), there’s a civil war with the East for those who don’t want to lose their ties with Russia, and they are deeply shocked and disgusted to see their government becoming neo-Nazi with legislation for Stepan Bandera, who fought with the Germans, the Azov batallion with neo-Nazi symbolism, and even public parades for a Wehrmacht batallion (all previously discussed on JPR).

        The St. George’s ribbon, traditionally used to celebrate the end of World War II in the Soviet Union is banned in Ukraine and you can get arrested for for celebrating Victory Day. Those who remember their family’s towns destroyed by Germany do not understand why the turn to neo-Nazism.

        I do suspect that those who support the current government are much younger and do not recall the history, or do not want to believe the history. It makes me wonder when change may happen, or even if it will happen within decades.

        Sorry for the long rant, but having Russian and Ukrainian friends, and as a regular visitor to Ukraine, I will do my best to just enjoy Ukraine and keep my mouth shut about politics while in Ukraine.

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