US-UK-Australia submarine deal is a dangerous joke which will only worsen geopolitical crisis with China

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      Joe Shlabotnik
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      Australia struggles to keep its current six diesel-powered submarines operational; it now wants to build eight nuclear-powered submarines, despite having neither the trained manpower nor the nuclear infrastructure necessary.

      This is a story of geopolitically driven military procurement gone mad.

      Australia is an island nation whose very survival is dependent upon its ability to access strategic sea lines of communication (SLOCs) so that critical commerce links can operate on a sustained basis. In short, if any nation or group of nations were to cut off Australia’s sea links to the rest of the world, the country would eventually wither away and die.

      Despite its impressive land mass, Australia is a relatively small nation, with a population of just under 26 million (making it 55th in world rankings) with a GDP of US$1.3 trillion (13th in the world.) The 2021 defense budget had Australia spending 2.1% of its GDP, or around AU$44.6 billion. Just under AU$16 billion of this was spent on the Australian Navy, which is comprised of nearly 50 commissioned vessels and over 16,000 personnel.

      More: https://thealtworld.com/scott_ritter/us-uk-australia-submarine-deal-is-a-dangerous-joke-which-will-only-worsen-geopolitical-crisis-with-china

       

      Interesting take. Alexander Mercouris mentioned it today in one of his videos. While searching for the article I found this, lol:

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    • #446245
      Two way street
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      war machines with France?

      2020-2024 Campaign Season: We the People are in the fight for our lives and livelihoods.

      • #446250
        Joe Shlabotnik
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        I don’t know how much the nuclear subs will cost, haven’t seen any numbers other than the 90B that France had lost. Australia would have known from negotiating that contract how much French Nuclear subs would cost and opted for the relatively cheaper diesel-electrics. But as the article states, even the conventional fleet was too much for Australia to crew and pay for.

        Canada has 6 decrepit Victoria class subs that the UK unloaded on us, and we’ve never had more than 2 operating at any time, and the costs are atrocious. Canada has almost twice the population, and greater GDP than Australia and we can’t even afford a functional diesel-electric fleet of 6 subs. Either it was a very sweet deal, or the Australians are nothing but yes-men for the US. Probably both.

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          ArtfromArk
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          which makes them fairly easy to detect. The US-UK nuclear subs are much harder to detect. When Australia learned about that, they wanted to get out of their deal with France. I have no idea why Australia signed the deal with France in the first place, but it would be worth looking into how the original deal was made.

          “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

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      jbnw
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      Well worth a minute 🙂

      Do you notice it’s all China now? No Russia or Middle East discussions.

      As Orwell wrote:

      The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.

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      soryang
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      Good analysis by Ritter.  I’ve been a Gareth Porter fan for years.   This US-UK-Japan alignment replicates the imperial arraignments at the turn of the 20th Century.   I guess the respective ruling classes don’t understand that things have changed since then.  Has Australia ever had an independent foreign policy since Whitlam was overthrown?

      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/23/gough-whitlam-1975-coup-ended-australian-independence

      • #446265
        Joe Shlabotnik
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        immediately came to mind for me too. Amazing that the Australian people put up with that shit then and much more since.

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