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    Vaccine skeptic RFK Jr. says he'll chair vaccine commission for Trump

    President-elect Donald Trump has asked vaccine doubter Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to chair a “commission on vaccine safety and scientific integrity,” Kennedy told reporters after a meeting in Trump Tower Tuesday.

    Kennedy, who said he accepted the assignment, has been insisting for over a decade that traces of mercury in a preservative formerly used in childhood vaccines caused a massive increase in autism diagnoses. He has clung to the theory despite overwhelming scientific evidence to the contrary.

    Kennedy and other vaccine skeptics have found a welcoming audience in Trump, who has repeatedly stated the belief that vaccines cause autism.

    “President-elect Trump has some doubts about the current vaccine policies and he has questions about it,” Kennedy said after his meeting, which he said Trump requested. It’s one of several meetings that Trump has held with anti-vaccine leaders in recent months.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2017/01/trump-meets-robert-f-kennedy-jr-233417

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    • jdpriestly (4492 posts)
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      1. I know a sweet, sweet baby that was infected by whooping cough because

      some smart-alec  mothers refused to vaccinate their babies.

      Think of the diseases that used to claim so many lives and have been pretty much banished from our country:  Polio, whooping cough, diphtheria (bet you have forgotten that one), tuberculosis (don’t even think we have to be vaccinated against that one any more — I’m not sure) just to name a few.

      I have to add that my oldest daughter drank unpasteurized milk from the farm across the street from us when she was a baby.  She has a wonderful immune system and is rarely sick.  So, I don’t know.   She is the one who was immunized against TB.  They stopped doing it after she was born I think.

      Some children cannot be vaccinated, but most can.  Not vaccinating your baby is irresponsible to other children who may be very vulnerable to disease.

      It should be interesting to find out what objective scientific research might discover about immunizations and how they affect our lives.  I have a positive opinion of them, but who knows?

       

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      • roguevalley (1286 posts)
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        2. this is all pathetic

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      • Peace13 (932 posts)
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        3. …..vaccine safety and scientific integrity.

        I’m not opposed to that. We cling to our imperfections like they were jewels to be lost not improved upon. As a person who has had major reactions to vaccines I am not opposed to making them as safe as they can be.  The list of inoculations that our kids are subjected to has exploded.

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        • The Crone (2778 posts)
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          17. Very much agree. When my work on

          Various major herbicides and pesticides landed me a post on a local Californian County’s Health Council, I was at first astounded to find out that almost all of the other participants were “Anti-Vaxxers.” I was most firmly in the pro-vaccine camp, even though my bout with Guillaume Barre had occurred due to the swine flu vaccine back in the mid 1970’s.

          But you know the drill: Jenner and his cow maids, plus the fact that right after I was born, lots of kids were paralyzed and some died due to polio. So I was pretty much, “All vaccines, all the time.”

          But as my spot on the Health Council continued, I met more and more vaccine researchers whose stories in their field were sadly identical to stories I had heard from the researchers at Big Pesticide/Herbicide. Suggest even for a half minute that some tiny step might actually help make a vaccine safer, and OOPS! your career was ended. You lost your  job, your pension, and you better hope you had the means to go back to school and get a degree in some other field, as you were now black listed forever.
          Now I am firmly in the camp of people who understands that our current vaccine schedule, and our current resistance as a people needs to turn around so we insist that vaccines actually be made in uncontaminated labs with better standards. (This is a necessity  if we want to turn the corner on children being made into asthmatic, ADHD, narcopleptic, autistic zombies, with one out of four kids now  having a major health problem before the age of seven.)

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          • Peace13 (932 posts)
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            18. Well said. Thank you.

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        • FanBoy (7039 posts)
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          24. also with privatization science aint what it used to be

      • pinduck (1109 posts)
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        5. Baseball legend John McGraw lost his mother & 3 siblings to diptheria and

        his father could not cope and turned violent and McGraw had to run away to escape the abuse. He was 12 and on his own.

        I read where Measles is making a comeback because parents are not immunizing their kids and imperiling everyone else. These are safe and needed vaccines.

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        • Peace13 (932 posts)
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          27. I'm pretty sure every agrees that a safe vaccine is awesome.

          That being said, there is profit in what they are selling and no reason to make them safer or cleaner. We used to X-ray kids feet at the shoe store to check for a good fit. See what I’m saying?

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          • pinduck (1109 posts)
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            28. Yes I do and thanks for the post. It's possible – probable? – that the FDA has

            failed to work on behalf of consumers and has allowed unsafe materials and handling into the process. Any outside study of the situation is welcome.

            I also think kids should not receive too many vaccinations at the same time. It could cause their immune systems to not function properly. I would like these immunizations to be spaced by weeks at least.

            So I guess I do see what you are saying – safety first and doublecheck.

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      • INTJ (1742 posts)
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        6. Has the US ever vaccinated against TB? I know they do in the UK

        but the US hasn’t used it, iirc, because it interferes with screening via skin tests.

        also iirs mostly the US is protected from TB by pastuerizing milk.

         

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        • jdpriestly (4492 posts)
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          8. My oldest daughter was born in a European country and was vaccinated against

          TB.  She shows positive on TB tests.  Thanks for the information about pasteurized milk.  I drank a lot of unpasteurized milk as a child.  It came from my grandfather’s farm, however, and my grandmother was such a cleanliness fanatic that I don’t think there was a germ within 50 feet of her.  (Joking of course, but maybe I was lucky.)

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      • Greenwich (1754 posts)
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        22. Whooping Cough Vaccine's Protection Fades Quickly

        http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2015/05/05/404407258/whooping-cough-vaccines-protection-fades-quickly

         

        JD:  Childhood diseases were mainly thought to strengthen children’s immune systems.

        I know a sweet, sweet baby that was infected by whooping cough because
        some smart-alec  mothers refused to vaccinate their babies.

        These are mother who are in no way “smart-alec’s” but rather deeply concerned for the well-being of their children and the harm done to so many children in the USA who are suffering effects of Autism.

        These mothers are some of the most highly educated women in the US who are researching the vaccines and their effects on children.  http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/More-Educated-Mothers-Are-Less-Likely-To-Vaccinate

        It’s time now for others to begin to educate themselves as to the reality of vaccines — and the vaccine industry.  Polio had already peaked by the time of the polio vaccine — and that’s true of many other diseases by the time the vaccines were introduced.

        However, I do agree with you here . . .

        It should be interesting to find out what objective scientific research might discover about immunizations and how they affect our lives.  I have a positive opinion of them, but who knows?

        The fact that discussion was banned on vaccines for a long period of time on our “liberal” websites now requires a catch up period.

        Most everyone knows about the Whistleblower on the MMR vaccine who still hasn’t been permitted to testify before Congress.  http://www.naturalnews.com/046630_CDC_whistleblower_public_confession_Dr_William_Thompson.html

        We need more discussion and trading of information on vaccines — not less.

         

        And . . .

        https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylc=X3oDMTFiN25laTRvBF9TAzIwMjM1MzgwNzUEaXRjAzEEc2VjA3NyY2hfcWEEc2xrA3NyY2h3ZWI-?p=whooping+cough+vaccine+is+one+of+the+most+ineffective&fr=yfp-t&fp=1&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8

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        • jdpriestly (4492 posts)
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          29. I'm 73. I've seen the threat of disease in early childhood nearly disappear.

          Childhood diseases can kill.  But there may be children who should not take the vaccines who are required to take them anyway.

          If the vaccines were as broadly dangerous as some believe, then people would refuse them in large numbers because babies would be dying and conditions like autism would be even more widespread.

          One thing we need is healthcare that is related to genetic factors.  I think that is being studied and worked on.

          I attended a meeting about autism a few months ago.   It is a terrible problem, but it may have been more prevalent in past generations than we realize.  A lot of children were placed in institutions who may have had it, and autistic children may have died young for other reasons.

          To establish that children develop strong immune systems from childhood diseases would be difficult. My mother certainly did not develop a strong immune system due to having pneumonia as a baby.  She had recurring bouts of pneumonia all her life.  While she lived long, no credit goes to her childhood diseases.  Rather she grew up on a farm and always walked a lot.  Walking does the body good.  Childhood diseases do not.

          My children were immunized and are much healthier than I was at their ages.  I think the theory that childhood diseases make a body healthy needs a lot of critical study and thought.  I reject it based on my very, very limited experience.

          The baby who had whooping cough is small for her age.  Might have been anyway, but the whooping cough certainly did not help.

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          • Greenwich (1754 posts)
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            33. Vaccines have been introduced as diseases have peaked —

             I’m 73. I’ve seen the threat of disease in early childhood nearly disappear.
            Childhood diseases can kill.  But there may be children who should not take the vaccines who are required to take them anyway.

            JD … all of the above is true.  But I would not say that US is a healthier nation today than it was in earlier times.  Simply to look around our neighborhoods today we see the proliferation of medical groups and banks.  Our drug stores are now immense pharmacies.

            If the vaccines were as broadly dangerous as some believe, then people would refuse them in large numbers because babies would be dying and conditions like autism would be even more widespread.

            JD:  Parents are refusing vaccinations for their children based on research and personal experience.

            However, Big Pharma cannot be sued for vaccine damage — a law put in place by our Congress because there were so many suits being brought against drug companies.

            One thing we need is healthcare that is related to genetic factors.  I think that is being studied and worked on.

            Big Pharma continues to try to push the idea that there is a genetic link to Autism, however, Autism also used to be rare and we have had an explosion — an epidemic of cases of Autism after the 1980’s increases in vaccination schedules.

            JD:  Of course, children do get pneumonia, but I wouldn’t label it a childhood disease.  Currently there is a vaccine out which is recommended for those 65 or older.

            My children were immunized and are much healthier than I was at their ages.  I think the theory that childhood diseases make a body healthy needs a lot of critical study and thought.  I reject it based on my very, very limited experience.

            JD:  Certainly our children are not healthier right now given the increasing allergies to rather ordinary things, such as peanuts.  However, the industry did include peanut oil in vaccines which may have led to these allergies.  Many other complications seem to be adding up from asthma to diabetes in children.

            The baby who had whooping cough is small for her age.  Might have been anyway, but the whooping cough certainly did not help.

            JD:  Very sorry to hear about this young child’s difficulties, but it also very happily sounds as though she did survive.  :)

             

             

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    • GZeusH (1175 posts)
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      4. I thought Bizarro World was just in the comics

      But now I see we are going to be living it.  There’s no global warming, and vaccines cause autism.  OK, I’m glad I’m retired, and I may become even more of a hermit.

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    • bjo59 (3609 posts)
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      7. Big Pharma must be circling the wagons now.

      Ludicrously high number of vaccines administered to babies that is widely accepted as good and right across the US population = big, big profits.  Can’t have that messed with.  (It’s amazing how many people who don’t like or trust mega corporations do trust corporate produced or funded science when it has anything to do with health and medicine.)

      • jdpriestly (4492 posts)
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        9. I didn't realize there were so many.

        Which diseases are babies vaccinated against nowadays?

        My sister told me that they now consider measles to be more dangerous than they used to because for a time after you have measles, you are immune to it but susceptible to other diseases.  Have you heard anything about that?

        I was in the hospital for scarlet fever when I was a two-year-old during WWII.  It was a terrifying, traumatic experience.  I will never forget being told that medicine was a cracker and that I had to take it.  When I tried it, it tasted awful.  I still remember that today.  The nurses looked like witches to me.  I was only two, but my memories of it  are still vivid.

        Being seriously sick as a child is a terrible experience.  I would like to know what it does to your immune system.

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        • Peace13 (932 posts)
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          • jdpriestly (4492 posts)
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            11. Good Heavens!

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            • Peace13 (932 posts)
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              12. That's what they're talking about.

              I’m so glad I don’t have little kids now. Over the past 25 years the number has tripled I believe.  When my son went to college he had several boosters and a series of new vaccines to take. He had a massive case of hives that refused to respond to anything, steroids included.  I have a hunch what that was all about but it was never proven.

              I hope they do look into this and either verify that there are no problems or find solutions to the problem.

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              • jdpriestly (4492 posts)
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                19. Knowing my daughter, I'm sure my grandkids have had all these vaccinations.

                They are fine.  The vaccinations don’t seem to have hurt them at all.  It’s the disease that hurt my little granddaughter, the one she had because she was too young for the vaccination.

                We need an objective, truly scientific study on these vaccinations because when people don’t give their children vaccinations that are safe and necessary, those too young for the vaccinations are endangered.

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                • Peace13 (932 posts)
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                  20. I am so sorry to hear about your granddaughter.

                  When the little ones get sick it is especially sad!  I have pretty much given up hope but if Trumps son was hurt by inoculations then Donald has a ‘reason’ to fix the problem. In this country if the problem hasn’t hit home…well it just isn’t a problem. This may be one area that actually gets addressed. I was on FB last night and people were going on about this. One man was totally opposed to looking at vaccines at all.  When I checked him out, he lives in Canada. We never know how deep the confliction goes out here!

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                  • jdpriestly (4492 posts)
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                    21. I saw a study stating that autism is more prevalent when the father is over 45.

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                    • FanBoy (7039 posts)
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                      25. also because of an enlargement of the definition/criteria for diagnosis

                      as with many things

                      • jdpriestly (4492 posts)
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                        30. Yes. I agree.

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                • Greenwich (1754 posts)
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                  34. Actually that works the other way around —

                  We need an objective, truly scientific study on these vaccinations because when people don’t give their children vaccinations that are safe and necessary, those too young for the vaccinations are endangered.

                  You might notice the next time an ad comes on TV for some medication or other that they will warn you NOT to take it if someone in your family has recently been vaccinated.

                  You might also have heard one spouse of the other at times complaining that the one getting vaccinations is infecting the other with flu.

                  Was just reading about the Measles vaccine and how long it stays in the body — weeks, if I recall correctly — making it possible for them to be infecting other children.

                  And often after these outbreaks, we’ve had health officials make clear to the public that the unvaccinated are not responsible for the outbreaks.

                  MSM is very busy reaping profits from drug ads (though patients are no longer requesting these drugs being advertised from their doctors) — the theory is that this vast amount of advertising by Big Pharma is a reward to MSM for not telling the truth about them and the many problems with their products.

                   

                   

                   

                   

                   

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                  • jdpriestly (4492 posts)
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                    35. Sorry, but based on my experience sith my children and grandchildren, that is no

                    the way it works.  Not at all.  Vaccinations are important.  I remember my childhood and what it was like before people vaccinated their babies.  We and our children are healthier now.  I would not miss a flu shot.  Tetanus shots?  Yes.  And other immunizations.  Penumonia?  Yes.

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                    • Greenwich (1754 posts)
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                      36. Many others have their own experiences —

                      just as worthy of being considered and respected . . . parents who saw their children became deathly ill after vaccines were administered to them who then watched as their very normal and highly intelligent and interactive children disappeared into the nightmare of Autism.

                      Many of our soldiers have been harmed by vaccines administered to them in the military — and many citizens have been harmed by Big Pharma drugs and their side effects, and something like 125,000 or more deaths every year from their BigPharma drugs/medicines.

                      http://naturalsociety.com/medical-system-fda-approved-drugs-kill-100000-annually/

                      We have 1 in every 3 Americans now with Cancer while the business of the “War on Cancer” continues to do little but expand the franchise.

                      Because you haven’t personally experienced this harm doesn’t mean that it isn’t happening to others.

                      Again, I’d encourage anyone concerned about his issue to continue to read and research.

                       

                       

                       

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                      • bjo59 (3609 posts)
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                        37. Great posts on this topic, Greenwich.

      • Greenwich (1754 posts)
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        23. It's amazing that many now recognize the MSM as fake news ….

        but they don’t consider the immense investment Big Pharma makes in our MSM ….

        As “The Crone” has often pointed out the very purpose of all of those very expensive drug commercials you see on TV every day is to keep MSM from telling the truth about Big Pharmas drugs, medications and vaccines and the harm they are doing to children —

        and don’t forget the harm done to our soldiers.

         

         

         

         

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        • bjo59 (3609 posts)
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          38. Absolutely.

          I’m not sure where I came across it, but I remember reading a detailed article about how Hollywood stars are “forced” into never stating anything critical of the medical industry.

          • Greenwich (1754 posts)
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            41. Really . . .

            that’s quite enlightening.

            As The Crone often points out, MSM is being bought off by Big Pharma with expensive drug ads run every day, to pay them off for not investigating them.

            Also, it’s a reminder of the death of German journalist who has authored the book “Bought Journalists.”

            http://www.activistpost.com/2017/01/reporter-udo-ulfkotte-exposed-governments-creating-fake-news-war-propaganda-found-dead.html

            Best I could do on a link cause it’s rather late and off to bed!

            :)

             

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            • bjo59 (3609 posts)
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              42. Thank you for the link to that article.

              I’d read other articles about Ulfkotte but none contained the amount of information that your linked article does.  The part where he talks about the intelligence agencies working on journalists’ egos to soften them up was interesting.  It’s the same thing that pharmaceutical corporations do to doctors and scientific researchers.  In his book, “Let Them Eat Prozac,” David Healy writes about the ghost writing of peer reviewed articles on SSRIs… about how grad students who can’t find academic jobs are hired by pharmaceutical companies to ghost write positive scientific articles on this drug or that and how those articles are presented to well known and admired academics in the field with the offer to publish the articles under their names.  (The articles are then peer reviewed and published in serious academic science journals.)  The academic “stars” who agree to the deal have very often been “wined and dined” by the pharmaceutical industry in advance (expense paid “conferences” at luxurious resorts, etc.).  This example is about “ego softening” strategies that are probably much, much more expensive than the “ego softening” strategies of the intelligence agencies aimed at journalists!

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        26. It's also amazing how many people trust corporate medicine

        when so many medications that are advertised in informercials disguised as evening new programs today have potential side effects that can be much worse than the afflictions they are supposedly treating.

        The last time America was run like a business, we ended up with a Great Depression.
        • bjo59 (3609 posts)
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          39. That one has me scratching my head too.

          I know so many people who will down pharmaceuticals on a doctor’s advice without a second thought… despite those constant commercials featuring outrageously long lists of dreadful side effects.

    • zoolook67 (547 posts)
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      13. This is a good thing. Long overdue.

      Why is it that people who otherwise don’t trust BigPharma don’t want oversite over what they inject in their kids?

      Living well is the best revenge.
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        15. It is good and am looking

        forward to the results.

      • bjo59 (3609 posts)
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        40. Very good question.

    • TwilightSporkle (1636 posts)
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      14. Dipshits leading dumbfucks

      What if I want to tell you to leave me and my beloved ones in peace

      But you only understand the language of the sword

      I let the blade do the talking

      So my tongue shall become iron

      And my words the mighty roar of war

    • IdaBriggs (750 posts)
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      16. Yeah! And he's asking a Democrat to do it.

      Vaccine safety is a big deal. This is long overdue.

    • Greenwich (1754 posts)
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      31. Congress has still not allowed Whistleblower Dr. Wm. Thompson to be heard —

      Despite that Rep. Bill Posey (R) and his team continue to push Congress for Hearings — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGRjn_gIJw0

      CDC Whistleblower: Mercury in Vaccines Given to Pregnant Women Linked to Autismhttp://healthimpactnews.com/2014/cdc-whistle-blower-mercury-in-vaccines-given-to-pregnant-women-causes-autism/

      CDC Whistleblower: CDC Covered Up MMR Vaccine Link to Autism in African American Boyshttp://healthimpactnews.com/2014/cdc-whistleblower-cdc-covered-up-mmr-vaccine-link-to-autism-in-african-american-boys/

      http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/cdc-whistleblower-dr-thompson-ive-stopped-lying-willing-to-testify-on-vaccine-fraud/

      I’m hopeful with all that is happening in the US that more and more Americans will begin to research vaccines and see the many concerns expressed not only by parents, school nurses, doctors, but also medical officials responsible for health programs in US: —

      “There is a great deal of evidence to prove that immunization of children does more harm than good.” “The manufacturers of these vaccines know they are worthless but they go on selling them anyway.” – Dr J Anthony Morris, PhD (Former Chief Vaccine Control Officer and Research Virologist, US FDA)

      “There are unanswered questions about vaccine safety… No one should be threatened by the pursuit of this knowledge.” “I think public health officials have been too quick to dismiss the hypothesis as irrational without sufficient studies of causation.” – Dr Bernadine Healy, MD (Former Director, National Institute of Health and Former President, American Red Cross)

      “Crib death was so infrequent in the pre-vaccination era that it was not even mentioned in the statistics, but it started to climb in the 1950s with the spread of mass vaccination.” – Dr Harris L Coulter, PhD

       

       

       

       

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