20score (147 posts)April 14, 2017 at 3:59 pm
Want to expose the worst of the worst.
I’m looking for some verifiable stories about some powerful people in the media and leading politicians, from their past – before they became public figures – who are less than honorable people now. I really don’t want gossip about those who are honest and who try to help others. They could have had sex with dead rodents, for all I care. I’m talking about the Hillary Clintons, Rachel Maddox, the Sean Hannitys, Lindsey Grahams; people like that. (Almost everyone on Fox, CNN or MSNBC.) All of the people running the major news media, all of the warmongers in congress and those who lie to shift wealth to the already wealthy, while taking from those with the least.
Also, the paid talking heads who lie for a living. (Some of the experts who are paid by the industry they’re trying to benefit, while pretending to simply give unbiased information.) Along with those who will push any war, risk nuclear war, steal food from the poorest amongst us, (like Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney) who tried to justify not feeding children at school. You should know the type by now. Rich sociopaths, willing to lie to make themselves richer and the world a worse place.
Anyone who harms others for a living, I want to know what they were like before they lived in front of a camera, or if the situation fits, those who are pulling the strings from behind the scenes.
Please help, with links or something to back up the stories, if possible.
If they’re going to devote their lives to hurting others, they deserve some push-back. (I really hope this gets some exposure.)
Thank you in advance.The Crone, bvar22, LaaDeeDaaVA and 13 othersbeltanefauve, roguevalley, OzoneTom, hopemountain, tonyl, ChiciB1, Baba OhReally, historylovr, mmonk, Enthusiast, azurnoir, Marym625, Katashi like this
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OzoneTom (858 posts) (Reply to original post) April 14, 2017 at 4:43 pm
1. You have probably already seen the Bill and Hill first date saga
They planned to go to an art gallery but there was a janitorial strike and it was closed. So they volunteered to “pick up litter” to get in the closed exhibit. Here are a couple of links:
Jacobin: When Bill and Hillary Crossed the Picket Line
In These Times: On Bill and Hillary Clinton’s First Date in 1971, They Crossed a Picket Line
Even then they knew that rules do not apply to them, so as the saying goes “when someone shows you who they are believe them.”Pleased to have matching hands and feet.
20score (147 posts) (Reply to OzoneTom - post #1) April 15, 2017 at 10:29 am
Enthusiast (12609 posts) (Reply to OzoneTom - post #1) April 16, 2017 at 2:22 pm
15. Huge plus one!
They weren’t corrupted by money. They are just inherently corrupt and they love money."I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country." Thomas Jefferson
3FingerBrown (698 posts) (Reply to OzoneTom - post #1) April 16, 2017 at 4:27 pm
Rocker (565 posts) (Reply to original post) April 14, 2017 at 4:57 pm
2. Bush,Cheney,Rice,Rumsfeld,Powell lied us into war, set up torture camps
Here’s some of the millions of pages of evidence. Have fun with exposing criminals in our corrupt country, nothing will be done about it.
20score (147 posts) (Reply to Rocker - post #2) April 15, 2017 at 8:50 am
Marym625 (29647 posts) (Reply to Rocker - post #2) April 15, 2017 at 8:11 pm
10. Gotta agree with that
But want to see what he comes up withTake Action #StopFCC https://www.battleforthenet.com/breaktheinternet/ "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier, it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian
hollys mom (907 posts) (Reply to original post) April 14, 2017 at 10:46 pm
3. as far as the media personnel
and other general people, i have truly come to believe that many live and socialize in closed communities where everyone has the exact same thought, no time for other thoughts to find their way in. They all talk to each other and no other thought comes in, oh and they are impressed by politically connected (Bill was president) and being invited to parties. Clinton spent a lot of time between 2008 and 2016 giving parties that news people were invited to. Now that doesn’t make them crooked, just amazingly thoughtless, unoriginal and easily
20score (147 posts) (Reply to hollys mom - post #3) April 15, 2017 at 10:31 am
20score (147 posts) (Reply to original post) April 15, 2017 at 8:49 am
cyberpj (2389 posts) (Reply to original post) April 15, 2017 at 10:37 am
8. Are you thinking we should consider the 'observer effect' from physics?
The observed responds to being observed?QUESTION EVERYTHING
20score (147 posts) (Reply to cyberpj - post #8) April 22, 2017 at 9:22 am
Marym625 (29647 posts) (Reply to original post) April 15, 2017 at 8:08 pm
9. Not sure what you're going to do with it
But I’ll help by giving you exposure on The Daily Radical
Never saw a post of yours that was anything but well written and informative. Just going to assume you’ll do something great with informationTake Action #StopFCC https://www.battleforthenet.com/breaktheinternet/ "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier, it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian
20score (147 posts) (Reply to Marym625 - post #9) April 15, 2017 at 9:39 pm
Marym625 (29647 posts) (Reply to 20score - post #11) April 16, 2017 at 7:07 am
12. I'm only going to leave it on The Daily Radical for a couple days
But hopefully, you’ll get what you need in that time
faultindicator (971 posts) (Reply to original post) April 16, 2017 at 7:41 am
13. If you live in or are able to reach an area,
an area with a large hotel(s) that companies use for their conventions, make a friend there.
Some background. As the purchasing manager at a large hotel here in Naples, Fl, it did not take long to figure out that the stocks of companies holding these conventions would soon rise or split. It was obvious that being able to afford such luxuries comes when times for the company are good, but not the reverse. Cheney actually had a brief, one day meeting there. Basically any of the managers, chefs, or sales staff can tell you what’s coming up. (this wasn’t my normal work)
Being a public place, it is fairly easy to visit the outside bars, pools, and other amenities. How much you choose to interact is up to you, eavesdropping at first to find your target. Remember, people will talk around a subject that they don’t want others to know about. Often by speaking in that manner they do more to expose themselves than if they uttered their precise motives. Good luck. It is these people that have the goods on those you seek.A reasonable request: Reduce daily TV viewing time by 1/2 hour starting now. Ask others to do the same, follow through with them, break the media habit. FI - Simple and straight forward, just like this place, solutions without the bullshit.
20score (147 posts) (Reply to faultindicator - post #13) April 16, 2017 at 11:57 am
KauaiK (3529 posts) (Reply to original post) April 16, 2017 at 5:07 pm
17. Go look at Darryl Issa.
Used car salesman; charged with gun running; fronted the recall of then Gov. Gray Davis for Karl Rove. It’s all out there.
Critical thinking is the vaccine for charlatans of the world who exploit ignorance - JPR's own So Far From Heaven.
The Crone (3157 posts) (Reply to original post) April 17, 2017 at 1:46 am
18. Diane Feinstein and Diane Feinstein is
One evil piece of poop.
Most excellent reporter, Peter Byrne, has been uncovering her crimes and only one outlet, The Bohemian, would agree to publish his findings.
Something many people don’t realize – once she had enough power inside the US Senate, she had one of her aides re-write the Senate Ethics Code, so that there is almost no way in hell that anything any corrupt Senator does would ever be considered a conflict of interest. As long as a Senator states for the record that they voted for some piece of legislation for some reason other than enriching their coffers, then it is okay to vote for items that end up making them rich.
Shortly after the new Senate Code of Ethics was in place, she was able to vote for the war against the people of Iraq, and she knew she would be able to see to it that her husband Richard Blum would be getting valuable war contracts. Sure enough, within six weeks of the war starting, he had racked up 27 million dollars worth of war contracts. As time went on, she leaked information she had discovered through her position inside National Security hearing to Richard, so he could bid on “construction projects” that would be supposedly taking place, in areas that were going to be bombed! So he never had to fulfill the contracts, as the whole area was made into rubble.
Here is one link wherein Byrne reports on her Evilness:
Discussion of why Di Fi resigned from a governmental committee – had to do with an expose that Peter Byrne had published in The Bohemian"Let us not seek the Republican answer nor the Democratic answer but the right answer." John F. Kennedy America is the only country that has real lemons in its furniture polish, and artificial lemon flavoring in its lemonade!
20score (147 posts) (Reply to The Crone - post #18) April 22, 2017 at 9:24 am
21. Thank you! And I defininately agree with you, about Feinstein.
Terrible senator and terrible human being.
ChiciB1 (696 posts) (Reply to original post) April 18, 2017 at 1:55 pm
19. I See You're Relatively New Here So I Really Want To Think You Have…
some clear “agenda” or plan to expose the information you collect. I don’t know of any particular ways to get behind the scenes info that TPTB are able hide, but I’m always interested in reading the ways they’ve been able to manipulate “we the people” all the while getting richer as each minute goes by.
Over my years as an activist I’ve tried to fight back against the lies that they’ve been able to get away with! I’ve noticed more and more that those who are willing to expose real truth are ending up 6 feet under! Could be wrong, but I don’t remember seeing this happen so frequently in my lifetime. Thinking back, my first real exposure to this began back during Bill Clinton’s first term as POTUS. Don’t know the real truth behind Vince Foster’s death, but I know Paul Wellstone’s death had me scratching my head. There were others connected with them that died in plane crashes too. Can’t remember his first name, but his last name was Brown who also died in a plane crash. He was a Clinton “insider” so thought it was just an unfortunate accident, but I now wonder. There have been deaths swirling around the Clintons for years but no evidence connecting them directly to any of them.
Paul Wellstone died on my birthday way back then and I was shocked. He most certainly WAS NOT one of the DLC guys and then he died in a plane crash!
Anyway, for whatever reason you want this information other than just personal knowledge, it’s always good to seek the truth.
20score (147 posts) (Reply to ChiciB1 - post #19) April 22, 2017 at 9:30 am
22. Hi, I was actually one of the first posters on this site, and back in 2007 –
2011 I posted often and was well known on DU. (But at a certain point I thought that site was toxic.) I just don’t write as often as I should, or as I would like…but I am going to change that soon. I will be writing on this site, regularly.
I do have a couple of ideas I want to work on, but can’t really state them, here.
Nice to meet you.
ChiciB1 (696 posts) (Reply to 20score - post #22) April 22, 2017 at 10:38 am
23. Of Course. There Are Many Here Who Were Loyal To DU For A Very Long Time…
I had joined in 2004, and even though my number count was low relative to many other “long timers” they were my main reference blog. As a tennis advocate I “bounced” back and forth (pun intended) from both sites.
There were times I HAD to take breaks from what I began to see as a changing Democratic Party and issues that disturbed me. Watching members, who for the most part shared the views of what I believed DU had been founded upon, simply roll over and willingly agree with whatever came out of THIS now Democratic Party was disconcerting to me.
Then there came a time when ANY alternative points of view were looked upon as traitorous resulting in too many cat fights all the time and I could no longer interact there. Points of views are one thing, but when facts are presented and ignored and attacked I felt the place had strayed too far from my point of view and what I had to say was irrelevant. So it was time for me to exit.
Even here we don’t have to agree on everything, but I think we do want to see real change.
Thanks for the reply and perhaps we’ll see more of what you’re proposing shared here with us.