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    • #491490
      HassleCat
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      https://blogs.sierraclub.org/mrgreen/2009/02/advice-about-recreational-eating-.html

      We use millions of gallons of gasoline while we idle our cars in fast food drive through lanes. The fastest way to get fast food is to order on your smart phone and run into the store to pick up.

    • #491493
      Ohio Barbarian
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      NONE of them around here have done that since the lockdowns. The only way you can get your Big Mac is via the drive-thru. Fortunately for me, I have both charcoal and propane grills, and my burgers are better anyway.

      Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

      The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

    • #491495
      jbnw
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      Let’s just re-do our lives to punish Putin.

      • #491503
        HassleCat
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        We need to reduce our petroleum use. For cleaner air and a better environment.

        • #491520
          jbnw
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          This, of course, has nothing to do with the $6 a gallon gasoline as a result of sanctions against Russia. I must remember 😉

          • #491526
            HassleCat
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            I don’t blame Putin for high gas prices. I know people think I’m obsessed with Putin because I criticize him, but I dislike him many of the same reasons I dislike our leaders. My dislike is a little more intense right now because of the Ukraine thing, but it was the same with Obama and his drone strikes, which got me kicked out of another website. Anyway, I’ve always been an “earthen” or tree hugger or whatever, member of Sierra Club and similar organizations, even when I was in the nuclear power field in the Navy. I was a fervent biker and didn’t own a car for many years. All that stuff, blah, blah, blah. So Putin has very little influence on what I think about our lust for excessive driving and our casual shrugging off of conservation ideas. We should curtail our fossil fuel consumption for many, many reasons that have nothing to do with Putin or Russia or Ukraine. So yeah, I’m hating on Putin right now, but it’s a temporary thing and has no connection with gas prices.

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            Price for a barrel of oil today: $117.59
            Price for a barrel of oil in 2014: $120.45

            Price of gas in 2014: $3.13
            Price of gas in 2022: $4.67

            So why are gas prices a dollar and a half higher per gallon today than they were in 2014?

            Because Big Oil corporations are hiking prices to rake in record-setting profits.

            Jesus: Hey, Dad? God: Yes, Son? Jesus: Western civilization followed me home. Can I keep it? God: Certainly not! And put it down this minute--you don't know where it's been! Tom Robbins in Another Roadside Attraction

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      djean111
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      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

      "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

      A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

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      What about stop signs and red lights? Lots of idling going on there. Maybe we should rethink all of that, and just keep going instead. Sure, it’s kind of dangerous and against the law, but I’m sure everyone will understand when you tell them that it’s for a good cause.

      But really, these symbolic measures are more about virtue signaling. There’s the same sort of dynamic at play with people who bring reusable bags to stores and the states that have banned their use. It’s so silly. You’re going to go purchase a bunch of plastic stuff sealed in plastic, but you’re totally not going to carry that stuff home in plastic. Now that would be bad for the environment. :/

      The big polluters love stuff like this because it deflects guilt and presents pollution as something that is the result of individual choices.

       

      "He busted in, blessed be thy lord
      Who believe any mess they read up on a message board
      If so, I got bridges for the low low" ~ MF DOOM

      • #491505
        HassleCat
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        Far better than stop signs. A traffic signal costs thousands of dollars a year in electricity and maintenance. I know change is unwelcome. I’m an American, too.

        • #491515
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          Anyway, like @gamemeat said, stuff like this distracts attention away from the fact that the US military is the greatest greenhouse gas emitter on the planet, with some oil companies not far behind.

          Fusion power is the best answer, not telling Americans to avoid drive-thrus and justifying traffic circles as a way to reduce pollution.

          Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

          The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

          • #491517
            HassleCat
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            It’s difficult to be an American. We are conditioned to do what we want. Several of my friends HATE! traffic circles and refuse to use them correctly. We tend to believe we can tech our way out of anything, so we cling to the hope that fusion power will save us from the terrible fate of conserving resources. I’m the same way, as far as what I want, but I’m pretty sure what I want is receding over the horizon.

            • #491546
              Ohio Barbarian
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              And I do know how to drive safely on those circles. The ones here aren’t like the ones in Rome, I’ll tell you that. The Italians are going at least 30 on those things, sometimes faster, and pedestrians just start to walk at a steady pace across the pavement.

              The drivers gage their speed and miss the pedestrian every time. It was the most amazing thing I’d ever seen people do. It was also 1979. Rome may have changed.

              Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

              The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

        • #491555
          Satan
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          …in the sense that they only work when everybody involved has the common sense and common courtesy to use them correctly. Every day we get people down here in Hell because somebody did not have one or the other, and they died in such an intersection as a result. Or – since this is Hell – it’s more likely they’re the one who caused the accident through lack of common sense and/or common courtesy.

          "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy

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        A Simple Game
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        I suspect many newer cars have that option.

        By the way, I find that function just so irritating that I usually shut it off after the first time reminds me.  I live in a rural area so I don’t save much gas anyway.

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