WaPo: The coronavirus crisis is turning Americans in both parties against China

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      jerry611
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      The Chinese government’s mismanagement of the covid-19 outbreak, and how the United States should respond, are caught up in the partisan politics of Washington. But around the country, Americans in both parties increasingly agree that the United States needs a tougher, more realistic China strategy that depends less on the honesty and goodwill of the Chinese government.

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      It’s difficult to gauge — in the middle of the crisis — how exactly the U.S.-China relationship is changing. But everyone senses it will never be the same. Political leaders in Washington and Beijing have put their war of words on hold for the moment. But there is clear evidence that China is planning to use the crisis to its economic and political advantage worldwide.

      Inside the Beltway, Republicans attack Democrats, Joe Biden and the media for not being critical enough of the Chinese Communist Party. Democrats attack President Trump for saying “Chinese virus” and attack any Republicans who blame the coronavirus pandemic on the CCP as racist.

      Yet a new poll shows that, outside the Beltway, the coronavirus crisis is actually bringing Americans together on the China issue. Republicans and Democrats now largely agree that the Chinese government bears responsibility for the spread of the pandemic, that it can’t be trusted on this or any other issue, and that the U.S. government should maintain a tough position on China on trade and overall, especially if Beijing again falters in its commitments.

      The bipartisan consensus on China doesn’t stop there. Ninety percent of Republicans said the Chinese government is responsible for the spread of the virus, compared to 67 percent of Democrats. Only 22 percent of Republicans and 34 percent of Democrats said they thought the Chinese government reported their coronavirus statistics accurately.

      On trade, there’s even more agreement. Neither party seems to know whether China will fulfill its obligations under Trump’s “phase one” trade deal. But strong majorities in both parties believe that the U.S. government should reimpose tough tariffs if Beijing doesn’t live up to its obligations. Majorities in both parties also believe U.S. manufacturers should pull back from China in the wake of the crisis.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/08/coronavirus-crisis-is-turning-americans-both-parties-against-china/

      When this pandemic is over, things could get ugly. It’s looking likely relations between the two countries is going to sour badly. Congress has already been looking at ways to punish China on multiple fronts.

      I think it’s going to be a much more confrontational relationship going forward.

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      soryang
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      It is so difficult to pierce the cultural veil, imperial propaganda, and political scapegoating in a society prone to racism and bigotry.   i wouldn’t trust the majority of Americans’ opinion on Asian affairs for five seconds.    US gross errors concerning Asia have led to one catastrophic war after another.

    • #301039
      The Red Menace
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      The Democratic electorate went full fucking Alex Jones in 2016 when their party pumped all that Russia bullshit into their heads.

    • #301047
      Yanath
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      More fun fallout from the media induced collective obsessional behavior that seems to currently enthrall the entire world (well, mostly the western world).

    • #301056
      David the Gnome
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      I find it absurd that they are blaming China – not the utter failure of the federal government right here in the U.S.  We could have stopped this thing – or at least massively slowed it if the people at the top were paying any God damn attention.

      I said back in February, they were only screening a few airports – and poorly at that.  There was no pandemic team, there were no tests or equipment prepared.  Then, to top it all off is our profit based healthcare system – and profit based everything else.

      Now the feds are quite seriously stealing shit, the stockpile is empty – and we still dont have nearly enough equipment, ventilators or staff.

      They want to blame China – but they should be looking right here at home.

    • #301059
      Hobbit709
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      I put the blame where it belongs. This pandemic could just as easily have originated here.

      I don't waste my time teaching pigs to sing.

    • #301115
      jwirr
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      So we are calling out a country that did exactly what our illustrious tRump did. Try to cover it up, lie about it, and ignore it. Which he is still doing. As far as I know China once the extent was known tried to help its people. Can’t say the same about our corporate leaders – if they had their way we would open the country even now while many areas are just beginning to feel the sting.

      Given this attitude and going back to the Black Plague era I wonder how many wars back them were about who spread what to whom?  It is here – deal with the disease and quit the blame games.

      jwirr

      • #301124
        Ohio Barbarian
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        @jwirr The Bubonic Plague Pandemic was not seen as being spread by any human agency in the feudal era. It was seen as the Wrath of God. Lots of wars were still fought, but not over who gave whom the plague. Hell, they didn’t even know that fleas on rats transmitted the damned thing. There was no germ theory of disease.

        Some European countries back then did, however, implement more effective quarantine and containment measures than we have seen from our current “leaders.”

        It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

        Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #301128
      retired liberal
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      We first have to recognize where the problems are before we can attack the actual problems. That requires laying blame. In this case, it is by far, our own government, Trump, Mitch McConnell, Nancy, both political parties, various Republican governors and conservative religions. There is plenty of blame to go around in this country without looking elsewhere.
      Why are we punishing people trying to help by finding and fixing the lack of PPE (Personal Protection Equipment)? Or speaking up about new hot spots?

      We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
      If you are wrong, it will be because you are not cynical enough.
      Both major political parties are special interest groups enabling each other for power and money, at the expense of the people they no longer properly serve…
      Always wear a proper mask when out and about. The life you save could be both yours and mine.

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