‘We need to live with it’: White House readies new message for the nation on coronavirus (NBC News)

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    • #333253
      mrdmk
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      The effort to craft a clearer response comes after months of Trump downplaying the health crisis and mixed signals from the administration.

      July 3, 2020, 2:28 PM PDT / Updated July 3, 2020, 2:34 PM PDT

      By Carol E. Lee, Kristen Welker and Monica Alba

      WASHINGTON — After several months of mixed messages on the coronavirus pandemic, the White House is settling on a new one: Learn to live with it.

      Administration officials are planning to intensify what they hope is a sharper, and less conflicting, message of the pandemic next week, according to senior administration officials, after struggling to offer clear directives amid a crippling surge in cases across the country. On Thursday, the United States reported more than 55,000 new cases of coronavirus and infection rates were hitting new records in multiple states.

      At the crux of the message, officials said, is a recognition by the White House that the virus is not going away any time soon — and will be around through the November election.

      As a result, President Donald Trump’s top advisers plan to argue, the country must figure out how to press forward despite it. Therapeutic drugs will be showcased as a key component for doing that and the White House will increasingly emphasize the relatively low risk most Americans have of dying from the virus, officials said.

      LINK–NBC News, ‘We need to live with it’: White House readies new message for the nation on coronavirus

      I will not blame you if you do not click on the link to read the article. It is as if everyone including Trump was hit with the stupid stick.

      NBC mention in the article back in March of this year, Trump made this Tweet:

      At 11:21 Friday morning, our itchy president tweeted “Liberate Minnesota!” before following up a minute later with “Liberate Michigan!” and three minutes later with “Liberate Virginia, and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!”

      LINK–Rolling Stone, Trump Sides With Coronavirus in Endorsement of COVID-19 Truther Protests

      The only problem, NBC News conveniently leaves out, “…and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!” I kid you not, NBC News only puts in “Liberate Minnesota!”, “Liberate Michigan!”, “Liberate Virginia”, all in quotes with no link. There are links to other parts of the article, but not this.

      Everyone seems to have an agenda.

      If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit WC Fields

    • #333254
      jwirr
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      That is the Republican answer to everything. And it is why they work only for themselves. True of Corpo Dems also.

      jwirr

    • #333255
      retired liberal
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      We need to “Get Control Of It”. Everyone wearing masks when there is the possibility of being around other people. Inside or outside. Avoid groups.
      The Federal Government blew it from the get-go. They are still failing the American people with their incompetence.

      We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
      If you are wrong, it will be because you are not cynical enough.
      Both major political parties are special interest groups enabling each other for power and money, at the expense of the people they no longer properly serve…
      Always wear a proper mask when out and about. The life you save could be both yours and mine.

    • #333258
      jerry611
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      Many conservatives think we need to just let it go and eventually the virus will burn out and we’ll gain immunity. They say shutting down the economy will only extend the pandemic and put us in depression.

    • #333259
      David the Gnome
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      Would be saying much the same.  It is not really an if anymore, a lot of hospitals are pressed to the breaking point – and they have a lot more incoming.  There is too much focus on profit.  We need to stem the tide by keeping as many people home as we can.

      The answer has been obvious all along – it is to pass a temporary UBI and to boost pay, benefits and regulation for those deemed essential.  The opposite is happening.  Essential workers are seeing cuts to their pay and benefits, the unemployment boost will be gone at the end of the month – and we are facing millions of evictions that will force people into the streets.

      They know what needs to be done.  They refuse to do it.  At stores, pharmacies and work places still open, there needs to be a strong – enforced mandate on mask.  States need to start actually enforcing their quarantine policies.

      None of this is happening because the authorities refuse to do it.

      The economy is crashing already, our infrastructure is wesk, our military is spread thin.  Like dominos, when one part of our infrastructure fails utterly, so will the others.  This means that overwhelmed hospitals will see the death toll (officially counted or not) surge dramatically – and some will simply shut down.

      We should have been doing all of this – and some kind of damn boot camp training, with high pay for medical workers, not just doctors and nurses – we need a lot more to contain this.

      None of these things are happening.  The money that should/could be used for it is going to big business, corporations, the misnamed paycheck protection program, the misnamed cares act…

      In short… without a miracle things are going to get worse.  Without action, they are going to get A LOT worse.  Fewer are dying for now… But a few weeks like this?  Hundreds of thousands, even millions of cases…

      But Congress will have their vacations, the President will play golf – and no one will tax the rich or tell the truth.

      I do not know what the final outcome will be, but for the present, we can expect a lot of pain, with a lot more to come.

      It did not have to be this way – and it is on every member of Congress and the Senate and the Trump administration as a whole.  It is on the media that is infatuated with death and uninterested in the truth.  It is on everyone who continues to scoff at the danger.

      It is what it is.  We are in for some terrible shit.

    • #333291
      incognito
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      release that statement, and people will go ballistic and he will be lucky to survive until November.

      They’ve done absolutely nothing to stop this pandemic. They have gone out of their way to make it worse! The day the Texan Lt. Governor, Dan Patrick said Grandma/Grandpa should be willing to die for the good of the economy, was the day they had decided to do NOTHING. The Southern States reopened and look at what that has done – made the pandemic numbers explode.

      They tossed the peasants $1,200 while shoveling millions to millionaires, corporations and people who don’t need money to live. Lobbyists? Are you effing kidding me? And they expect the peasants to just accept that. I don’t think so.

      If they think people are willing to live like this forever, they’re more insane than we thought.

      AND the corrupt Dem Party is complicit in all of this. What have the Dems done to help the citizens of this country? NOTHING. Where’s a UBI? Are they giving people money to pay their mortgage and buy food? NO. They actually let people go to the polls to vote in the middle of a pandemic! Why? You can’t hack evoting machines to steal votes if people are voting by mail, that’s why.

      We need a pitchfork REVOLUTION. All of these politicians need to be removed and pay for what they’re doing.

      I see all this as them testing us to see just how much bullshit we peasants will take. This new “learn to live with it” is just the next test.

       

       

    • #333297
      Fasttense
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      Even if you develop antibodies to it (and over half the people who get the disease and recover never develop antibodies) you can catch a different strain of the virus.

      People have gotten it twice and the antibodies, if you develop them, last as little as 2 months.

      There will be no herd immunity. The virus doesn’t work that way. And the virus brings with it, even after you recover, serious long lasting health problems.

      The only way to get rid of it is active and involved public health measures. Not just masks, but contact tracing and very strict quarantine. But of course America is too stupid to implement these measures and get rid of the virus like New Zealand and other countries.

      So, like with polio, America will just have to live with it. Thanks Trump, you lazy incompetent executive. It didn’t have to be this way.

    • #333395
      jerry611
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      For every person testing positive for antibodies, two were found to have specific T-cells which identify and destroy infected cells.

      This was seen even in people who had mild or symptomless cases of Covid-19.

      But it’s not yet clear whether this just protects that individual, or if it might also stop them from passing on the infection to others.

      Researchers at the Karolinksa Institute in Sweden tested 200 people for both antibodies and T-cells.

      Some were blood donors while others were tracked down from the group of people first infected in Sweden, mainly returning from earlier affected areas like northern Italy.

      This could mean a wider group have some level of immunity to Covid-19 than antibody testing figures, like those published as part of the UK Office for National Statistics Infection Survey, suggest.

      Much of the discussion around Covid-19 immunity has focused on antibodies – Y-shaped proteins which act like “missiles shooting down a target”, assistant Prof Buggert explained.

      They bind to the virus before it can enter your cells, and neutralise it.

      If antibodies fail to neutralise the virus, it can enter your cells and turn them into virus-making factories.

      T-cells, on the other hand, target already-infected cells and completely destroy them, stopping them from spreading to other, healthy cells.

      Like antibodies, T-cells are part of the bit of your immune system that has a memory. Once it recognises a particular virus, it can quickly target cells infected with it and kill them.

      https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53248660

    • #333402
      Haikugal
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      If we continue on this path then collapse will be the end result. I really hate to say it but it’s looking really bad.

      The DNC “big tent” excludes Nina Turner but includes John Kasich.

    • #333423
      MizzGrizz
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      Nobody cares about anything,it seems.Can you imagine FDR or Truman or JFK delivering such a drifting,helpless,do-nothing message???

    • #333430
      bazukhov
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      Well, maybe not.

      “Let them eat cake”  Trump’s version.

      Tell me, great captain, how do the angels sleep when the devil leaves his porch light on? Tom Waites

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