We want to encourage talented and highly skilled people to pursue career options in the U.S. (H1-B visas)

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    • #11071
      peacecorps
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      When you think you have no choice but to start a war, think again. Wars promise to be quick, clean and decisive. Wars lie. They cause more problems than they solve, they just won't tell you that beforehand.

      "If we are to have peace on earth, ... our loyalties must transcend our race, our tribe, our class, and our nation; and this means we must develop a world perspective."

    • #11082
      djean111
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      Ah!  Shades of Hillary!!!!!!  That’s NOT “whataboutism, folks, that’s “frame of reference”.    Hillary wanted to increase the number of H1-B visas by quite a bit.  There are very few EFFECTIVE politicians working for we the people in Washington DC.  Very few.  Time to start thinking of other options besides the Harlem Globetrotters and the Washington Generals.   Ooops!  The Democrats and the GOP, sorry!

      And anyone who whines “racism” – no, my stupid dear one, no one in the US would have been any happier to lose their job to anyone from ANY OTHER FORKING COUNTRY.   So stick that “racism” bilge into an orifice in your nether regions.

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

      "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

      A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

    • #11087
      ThouArtThat
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      But, But – Trump told me that he would keep all the scary people out of the country so snowflakes felt protected and safe.

      “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
      - John F. Kennedy

      "The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it."
      - George Orwell

      "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
      - Jiddu Krishnamurti

      "Sometimes a pessimist is only an optimist with extra information."
      - Idries Shah

      "A riot is the language of the unheard."
      - Martin Luther King

      • #11093
        djean111
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        Money from the H1-b agencies flows into bipartisan coffers.   So, by GOP/Democrat standards, H1-b visa holders are not “scary people”.  The people they displace are the scary people.  And these days, telling IT people to just go back to school, acquire a huge wad of debt, and learn to do something else is just not really a viable option – and not an option which should be necessary.  And remember – the US is a sovereign state when it comes to corporate plundering and war – but we citizens are not really very important at all.

        Are you calling the people whose jobs go to H1-b visa holders “snowflakes”?  It is not even a matter of better training – I have been interviewed for IT jobs where I was just the token American interviewed so they could go ahead and hire the less qualified H1-b.  There is something out on YouTube still, training for companies so they can get around the laughable regulations on this.  And entire DEPARTMENTS lose their jobs sometimes – this is not a matter of better training.

        America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

        "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

        A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

        • #11127
          ThouArtThat
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          Sorry that one did not detect the sarcasm in that post.

          “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
          - John F. Kennedy

          "The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it."
          - George Orwell

          "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
          - Jiddu Krishnamurti

          "Sometimes a pessimist is only an optimist with extra information."
          - Idries Shah

          "A riot is the language of the unheard."
          - Martin Luther King

      • #11110
        Vanflower
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        You don’t get it, not everything is racism or “scary” people.

        People want jobs that are secure (not contract labor) and pay well enough to take care of their families, that is not racism.

        It is a fact that illegal immigrants and too many legal immigrants brough here under the H1b lower wages.  We have plenty of skilled labor here already to fill any alleged H1b needs, it’s just that the tech companies want to import cheap labor.

        • #11120
          David the Gnome
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          The ridiculous part of this whole thing is that Trump profits rather bigly from illegal immigration himself.

          He does not actually want to build a wall.  It cannot be done for five billion, or ten, or twenty – not if he wants it to be solid construction.  Not if he wants enough people protecting it.

          That has a much higher price tag.  He knows that.  His supporters though, are howling for the real thing.  “Well, walls work!  Like the wheel!”  LOL.

          For houses?  Walls are great.  For any real length of border?  Ask China.

          One of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard.  Both parties know this.  Anyone who thinks that will build any kind of effective wall, halt or even slow undocumented immigrant labor is fooling themselves.

          Five billion dollars for a wall would be a wasted five billion.  More likely – he will attempt the “emergency” route and seize either storm relief funds – or the DOD budget.

    • #11097
      game meat
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      When you can’t outsource a job for cheap labor, you just bring them here. That’s H1-B visas in a nutshell.

      "He busted in, blessed be thy lord
      Who believe any mess they read up on a message board
      If so, I got bridges for the low low" ~ MF DOOM

      • #11128
        ThouArtThat
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        Yep – This scam is as old as the hills.

        “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
        - John F. Kennedy

        "The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it."
        - George Orwell

        "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
        - Jiddu Krishnamurti

        "Sometimes a pessimist is only an optimist with extra information."
        - Idries Shah

        "A riot is the language of the unheard."
        - Martin Luther King

    • #11105
      D503
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      Business magazine editorials claim there is a shortage of ‘qualified’ workers in the US.

      By ‘qualified’ they mean: they expect too much $$$, as their college debt must be paid.

      The imported workers will set the salary standard for US workers that possess a degree.

      Just a legal way to get this done as opposed to the southern migration which keeps wages low for everyone else.

      "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." - Asimov; "If you push something hard enough, it will fall over." - Fud's First Law of Opposition

      • #11129
        ThouArtThat
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        Yep – the H1b issue has been around for decades.  With the economy running well, the Oligarchs Corporations and Banks need to import cheap labor to lower wage expectations and control costs.

        “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
        - John F. Kennedy

        "The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it."
        - George Orwell

        "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
        - Jiddu Krishnamurti

        "Sometimes a pessimist is only an optimist with extra information."
        - Idries Shah

        "A riot is the language of the unheard."
        - Martin Luther King

    • #11108
      JustSayin
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      guess nothing much changed since pedo bill. I guess kids need to comepere with free education in other countries. Perhaps Nancy can assure Poopcan about access to education when she takes free college is off the table to support trumpy

      Never expect different result by following the previous steps

    • #11114
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      How about encouraging and ensuring current youth will become talented and highly skilled, Donny Boy?  Instead of encouraging brain drain from other countries (the cheap option for you).

      But maybe not such a bad thing — it promotes more competition among the upper middle class, driving wages down — win-win for you and the ruling class.

    • #11148
      bazukhov
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      There’s a lot to be said about “Workers of the World Unite!”

      Tell me, great captain, how do the angels sleep when the devil leaves his porch light on? Tom Waites

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