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  • TRex (3036 posts)
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    Well well, it looks like both parties are up to their necks

    in this investigation! GOOD! About time someone came along and pulled back the veil. Time for all Americans to learn how crooked our electoral system is. Time to learn a harsh lesson in trusting business, political and religous leaders. And that they are all at heart, crooks.

    No matter what comes from this, this is a win for us progressives! Both sides are now caught up in this investigation and what it mostly reveals to me is how little party loyalty there is and how much the power of money talks now.

    We live in a barbaric time where money buys the best Wall Street mouthpiece, party labels are irrelevant.

    I want to watch BOTH Trump and HRC take it on the chin over this one! No punches pulled!

    We could have Bernie Sanders as POTUS, but others decided this would be a horse race between Trump and HRC even if it broke the law or went against their supposed ‘values’ we hear them crow on about day in and day out.

    Manafort and Podesta…crooks of the same feather, flock together.

    Trump and HRC…in the Club for life.

    Everyone smile and say, “fuck the working class!”

     

     

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    “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.” - Obama

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    • iggy (1675 posts)
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      1. Billy can't help himself

      He can’t resist coping a feel; a life support system for an out of control penis.

      Truth has no Expiration Date. Life without Dignity is Slavery.
      • TRex (3036 posts)
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        3. You know, I just noticed how Melania has her hand clamped down on Bill's

        so it cannot go wandering around. She knows how to handle a career perv.

        “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.” - Obama
        • Bjorn Against (199 posts)
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          24. It looks like Trump also clamped down on Bill…

          • Bjorn Against (199 posts)
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            25. Trump and the Clintons were a whole lot closer than they want you to know…

    • closeupready (1762 posts)
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      2. It does feel a bit like how I recall the Watergate era felt.

      One of the big differences this time is that the mainstream media is an essential PART of the corruption, whereas during Watergate, the media helped DRIVE reforms.  Coming reforms which are borne out of this scandal will need to include MEDIA reforms, as well.  Breaking up monopolies, for example.

      What I think may end up surprising them all is that this scandal may take down the bribery framework which has underwritten our political campaign system, when the Russia narrative was intended – originally – by partisans merely to lay a foundation for impeachment of Trump.

      The opinions and views expressed herein are solely those of the author.
      • TRex (3036 posts)
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        4. I hope you are right, we have such a corrupt electoral system

        that like our apparent form of capitalism – is completely unstable. I do worry about exposure at a time when Big Biz is doing everything they can to clamp down on populist news on the internet. As you say, corporate media will thrill in reporting and censoring the parts of the news they want us to know/not know about.

         

         

        “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.” - Obama
      • Land of Enchantment (8293 posts)
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        18. +++++

        Yes. we had an entirely different MSM back then.

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
      • disillusioned73 (497 posts)
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        21. Good god I hope so..

        “What I think may end up surprising them all is that this scandal may take down the bribery framework which has underwritten our political campaign system, when the Russia narrative was intended – originally – by partisans merely to lay a foundation for impeachment of Trump.”

        "Certainly there are some people in the Democratic Party who want to maintain the status quo. They would rather go down with the Titanic so long as they have first-class seats." - Bernie Sanders
    • chknltl (317 posts)
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      5. Photo of Gold Digger with 3 Asses.

      nuff said.

      • TRex (3036 posts)
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        6. She just wanted to dig gold in one area, the other three want to own all the

        gold in the world. I hope all their hard work turns out to be fools gold and nothing else.

        “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.” - Obama
    • Ohio Barbarian (5159 posts)
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      7. Short, sweet, to the point, accurate, and most unwelcome on both SV and

      Breitbart. Looks like Daily Radical material to me.

      Ignorance is the foundation of tyranny.   
      • TRex (3036 posts)
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        8. All of us here have been waiting on this day to come.

        We left our home forums, some not by choice – because we would not quit demanding impartial justice and the facts. Because we already knew it was a rotten deal, but the shrills wouldn’t let us have meaningful conversations about it.

        We should never stop telling it like it is, even if we never have any $uperfriends(tm) and it is just us against the world.

         

         

        “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.” - Obama
        • Robot X (204 posts)
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          10. I was chased out after I juxtaposed these two pics during the primary.

          I asked who’s values best represent our country and who would you trust. The post lasted no more than 10 minutes and I was called every name in the book. Bernie Bro, misogynist, Russian stooge, Trump supporter, etc.

          I am cautiously optimistic over the investigation. The only reason for this is a cynical one however. TPTB have no love for the Clintons orTrump. They’ve become a distraction to their money making schemes and are completely disposable. They are sick of these assholes as much as we are. They want Romney and Jeb types. Rich simpletons that come from money, will do what they’re told, and know when to keep their yap shut.

          • Entrepreneur (2132 posts)
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            23. "… will do what they’re told, and know when to keep their yap shut …"

            The up side to Trump is that he can’t do either of these things, and the other 1%ers must be giving themselves face palms a few times a week over it. Great fun.

            “The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness" - J.K. Galbraith
      • Land of Enchantment (8293 posts)
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        20. Yes, agreed. Thanks.

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
    • ThouArtThat (5386 posts)
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      9. The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Look After Themselves – Same As Ever

      eom

      "In America Today, Power Corrupts and Money Corrupts Absolutely" - Anonymous  
    • Robot X (204 posts)
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      11. You know what pic your OP pic reminds me of?

    • HIP56948 (2967 posts)
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      12. It's nice to read a post such as yours..On Jackpine ..and know that..

      …the overwhelming responses will be most enlightening and helpful.  I say this because part of my day has been looking at sites like Discussionist and that Other site.

      This is a wonderful breath of fresh air.  

      • TRex (3036 posts)
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        13. Thanks, we get to have a personal opinion here.

        I value that.

        Those two sites are a strange mixture of socks talking across forums at each other. At least it was when they came back up imo. Haven’t cared to look since.

        “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.” - Obama
        • iggy (1675 posts)
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          14. Perhaps that is the intent

          People yelling at each other to create manufactured consent. When you don’t fit the narrative, it’s only a matter of time.

          Truth has no Expiration Date. Life without Dignity is Slavery.
    • Marym625 (26281 posts)
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      15. On The Daily Radical!

      Thank you!

      "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
    • ravensong (1725 posts)
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      16. Recommend nt

      Together, together, my friends, we have begun a political revolution to transform America, and that revolution, our revolution, continues. ~ Bernie
    • As Seen on the Internet (500 posts)
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      17. Washington DC has Third World level corruption

      with First World super power money involved.

      I’m not holding my breath that anything significant is going to be done to the real oligarchs.

    • Lorien (1726 posts)
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      19. What did I miss?

      I don’t watch TV. Did something happen that implicates them both? (Not that laws ever apply to oligarchs).

      • TRex (3036 posts)
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        22. Nothing solid yet, just that the trail of slime leads to both Manafort and

        Podesta. Both parties wanted to get rid of their opponent (with dirt from the Russians) and now are caught up in the investigation.

        “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.” - Obama