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      Scott Crowder
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      I should know this, but I wasn’t offered civics in high school.  Like most of us, I was kept in the dark.  So what happens if, heaven forbid (says the atheist), Biden and Trump both died of coronavirus before the election?

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      leftcoast mountains
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      Ohio Barbarian
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      Here’s one definite one–if the winning presidential candidate dies, then his VP becomes President, period. Other than that, Congress has to certify the Electoral College results, and they don’t have to. They could even call for a new election.

       

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      Scott Crowder
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      what if they both die BEFORE the election?  Obviously, the VP takes over if they die after the election.  I’m really curious if the death of Biden would make Harris the candidate because she didn’t have the most votes, Bernie did.  So wouldn’t Bernie have a case to be the new candidate?

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      Ohio Barbarian
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      @scottcrowder So it would get weird. Some states require their electors to vote for the VP candidate if that happens. Others allow them to vote for whoever. Some require them to vote for the dead guy. Then it would come down to Congress certifying the results of the Electoral College vote or not.

      And it’s this Congress, not the incoming Congress, so both houses would have to agree. Figure the odds.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      game meat
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      Pence or Harris would only assume office if Trump or Biden die while in office.

      If Trump or Biden die before the election, then the RNC/DNC would pick the replacement.

      If the winner dies after the election is over but before inauguration day, then the RNC/DNC would pick his replacement. If it’s Trump, Pence would be president until January 20, but may or may not be picked by the RNC to serve Trump’s second term.

      In theory, it could get more complicated, but this is the most realistic result if one of them dies.

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      srobert
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      <h2 class=”article-title”>Article II</h2>
      <h3 class=”section-title”>Section 1</h3>
      The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows

      Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

      The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.

      The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.
      <h2 class=”article-title”>Twelfth Amendment</h2>
      The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;–The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;–The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. [And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.–]The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
      <h2 class=”article-title”>Twentieth Amendment</h2>
      <h3 class=”section-title”>Section 3</h3>
      If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
      <h3 class=”section-title”>Section 4</h3>
      The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.

       
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