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  • spud demon (1104 posts)
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    What should we do if the president is a liar?

    We face a very serious political problem in this country, and that problem is manifested in a post written yesterday by Amber Phillips of The Washington Post. In her piece, Phillips criticizes me for lowering the state of our political discourse, because I accused the president of being a “liar.”

    What should a United States senator, or any citizen, do if the president is a liar? Does ignoring this reality benefit the American people? Do we make a bad situation worse by disrespecting the president of the United States? Or do we have an obligation to say that he is a liar to protect America’s standing in the world and people’s trust in our institutions?


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  • pinduck (1109 posts)
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    1. Excepting George Washington, a person would be correct in calling

    American Presidents liars. The ramping up of public anger as a prelude to war with Iraq is an  example. Are we to be dissuaded from pointing out that W Bush lied?

    The Washington Post? It seems to most that this paper has been the mouthpiece for the CIA since that agency came into being.

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  • Abakan (2999 posts)
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    2. If, if, if?

    If he is a liar? how many times does he have to prove he is a liar, before

    people start to believe him?

    I was convinced the first time he opened his mouth.

    “I’m, like, a really smart person.” D J T   Better to be a smart person, than to be like one, Donny.
    • Haikugal (6809 posts)
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      3. I'm with you Abakan!

  • Haikugal (6809 posts)
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    4. Good read, thanks!

    I find it interesting that Ms. Phillips did not take issue with my facts. Her complaint appears to be that it is improper for a United States senator to state the obvious. And that is that we have a president who either lies intentionally or, even more frighteningly, does not know the difference between lies and truth.
    What do you think?

    It is easy to know how we respond to a president with whom we disagree on many, many issues. I disagree with Trump’s support for repealing the Affordable Care Act. I disagree with Trump’s plan to give huge tax breaks to billionaires. I disagree with Trump’s appointment of an anti-environmental EPA administrator. I disagree with Trump’s appointments of major Wall Street executives to key economic positions and his plans to loosen regulations on Wall Street designed to protect consumers. And on and on and on!

    These strong policy disagreements are a normal part of the political process. He has his views. I have mine.

    But how do we deal with a president who makes statements that reverberate around our country and the world that are not based on fact or evidence? What is the appropriate way to respond to that? And if the media and political leaders fail to call lies what they are, are they then guilty of misleading the public?

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  • Half Century Man (1214 posts)
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    5. What would we do if we ever elected a non liar?

    I expect that our constant exposure to the verbal accuracy of our presidents, we would not believe an honest President.

    • Bernin4U (581 posts)
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      6. Matter of fact, we'd have one right now…

      if enough people allowed themselves to believe the truth that decent wages, health care, affordable education, etc, are absolutely achievable as well as what people actually want, rather than so easily accepting the lies that they aren’t.