‘What the Big Lie Is All About’: Sanders Rips Trump Lawyer Over ‘Pathetic’ Refusal to Acknowledge Election Results

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      eridani
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      https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/02/13/what-big-lie-all-about-sanders-rips-trump-lawyer-over-pathetic-refusal-acknowledge

      When asked during the Q&A portion of Friday’s impeachment proceedings whether he agrees with Democratic prosecutors that Donald Trump was perpetrating a falsehood when he repeatedly claimed the 2020 election was stolen from him, the former president’s defense attorney Michael van der Veen demanded to know who submitted the question.

      “I did,” Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said from the Senate gallery, prompting a tense back-and-forth between the Vermont senator and van der Veen which forced Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), the presiding officer, to intervene.

      Trump’s attorney proceeded to dodge Sanders’ question by claiming his judgement on the election results is “irrelevant” to the trial—to which Sanders responded, “No it’s not.”

      Following Friday’s session, the fourth day of the former president’s impeachment trial, Sanders denounced the Trump lawyer’s “pathetic” refusal to admit the former president’s election loss—denial that was at the heart of the mob attack on the U.S. Capitol Building last month. “This is what the Big Lie is all about,” Sanders tweeted Friday night. “Three months after the election, and 61 court decisions later, Trump and his attorneys still refuse to acknowledge that he lost the election.”

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      3fingerbrown
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      I hate it when that not reckonizing the results of an election shit happens!

      All governments lie to their citizen's, but only Americans believe theirs.

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      ThouArtThat
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      @eridani

      Hi eridani,

      This citizen and voter personally watched ES&S voting machines in 2004 switch straight party democratic votes to straight party republican votes.  As a result of that experience, I no longer trust any electronic voting system and have no problem believing the 2020 general election could have been rigged.  The “Big Lie” is more like a big cover up from this perspective.

      TAT

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        eridani
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        –that can be mailed in or deposited in collection boxes.  Scanners are pretty reliable, especially if they are validated by random hand count audits.  The only reason machines would be helpful is if some disabled folks want to use them as assistants.

        ES&S has been shitty for a long time.  I heard reports of switching D to R votes in 2004’s WA State gubernatorial election., which had to be hand counted in all the districts (save two) that had paper ballots.  The winner won by 136 votes out of 4 million cast.  The machines in two counties were incapable of being audited and only repeated their initial results.

        Jesus: Hey, Dad? God: Yes, Son? Jesus: Western civilization followed me home. Can I keep it? God: Certainly not! And put it down this minute--you don't know where it's been! Tom Robbins in Another Roadside Attraction

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