What the Far-Right Fascination With Pinochet’s Death Squads Should Tell Us

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    • #401548
      eridani
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      https://theintercept.com/2021/02/04/pinochet-far-right-hoppean-snake/

      Among the panoply of bizarre memes that far-right extremists flash at Trump rallies and share obsessively online, one of the more disturbing for its frightening historical reference is that of the “Hoppean Snake.” The image typically consists of a coiled serpent sporting the officer’s cap of notorious Chilean Gen. Augusto Pinochet. In the background fly childlike depictions of helicopters from which stick figures are jettisoned to their death, crying “Aaaahhh” in a barely legible scrawl. In one of its many variants, the snake-as-Pinochet proclaims with a sardonic smirk, “I’m evil for throwing people out of helicopters? False. Commies aren’t people.” It’s unclear why Pinochet is depicted as a snake, though it may be inspired by the recalcitrant snake on the Gadsden flag that warns “Don’t Tread on Me.”

      Far from being a joking homage to Pinochet — putschist, tyrant, torturer, mass murderer, puppet of the CIA, and hater of all things socialist, who ruled Chile from 1973 to 1990 — the fetishized totem of the Hoppean Snake has dire significance for U.S. paramilitaries. When Boogaloo Bois, Proud Boys, Three Percenters, Oath Keepers, armed Trumpists, and the like wear T-shirts that offer “free helicopter rides,” they are referencing a program of extermination.

      Following Pinochet’s 1973 coup d’état, which ended the short-lived and turbulent administration of Chile’s democratically elected president Salvador Allende, an avowed Marxist, thousands of Allende’s supporters were killed, tens of thousands of perceived enemies of the putschist regime were tortured, and thousands of others were disappeared, often after being flown in a military helicopter and toppled from the sky. Sometimes this free helicopter ride included splitting open the guts of kidnapped victims while they were still alive so that their bodies wouldn’t float when dumped in the sea.

      What garnered Hoppe the far right’s honor of associating him with Pinochet’s homicidal regime, however, was not the introduction of neoliberalism in Chile but specifically his musings about the democratic god that failed. Hoppe contends that the “physical removal” of undesirable citizens will be required in a putative libertarian “compact.” “There can be no tolerance,” he writes, “toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and expelled from society. Likewise, in a covenant founded for the purpose of protecting family and kin, there can be no tolerance toward those habitually promoting lifestyles incompatible with this goal. They — the advocates of alternative, non-family and kin-centered lifestyles such as, for instance, individual hedonism, parasitism, nature-environment worship, homosexuality, or communism — will have to be physically removed from society, too, if one is to maintain a libertarian order.”

      Jesus: Hey, Dad? God: Yes, Son? Jesus: Western civilization followed me home. Can I keep it? God: Certainly not! And put it down this minute--you don't know where it's been! Tom Robbins in Another Roadside Attraction

    • #401569
      GZeusH
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      When they talk about the “physical removal from society”, do they meant the part where they go in their bunkers and commit suicide?

      Corporate America consists of totalitarian entities laser-focused on short-term greed.

      My pronouns: vuestra merced, monsieur, господин, pana Bogu, πανίσχυρος Δίας

    • #401570
      KenTankerous
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      I’ll need to learn more about him. Know The Enemy.

      "If we define an American fascist as one who in case of conflict puts money and power ahead of human beings, then there are undoubtedly several million fascists in the United States."
      - Henry A. Wallace
      (FDR's Vice President until he was forced out by the corrupt forces of obscene wealth.)

      • #401641
        Cold Mountain Trail
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        He’s still alive.

        “Hans-Hermann Hoppe (/ˈhɒpə/;[4] German: [ˈhɔpə]; born 2 September 1949) is a German-American paleolibertarian and anarcho-capitalist political theorist.[5][6][7] He is Professor Emeritus of Economics at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas (UNLV), Senior Fellow of the Ludwig von Mises Institute, former Editor of the Journal of Libertarian Studies, a lifetime member of the Royal Horticultural Society and the founder and president of the Property and Freedom Society.[8][9]

        Hoppe identifies as a culturally conservative libertarian. His remarks and ideas concerning race and gender have repeatedly provoked controversy among his libertarian peers and his colleagues at UNLV. His belief in rights of property owners to establish libertarian communities that engage in racial discrimination, and his assertion that homosexuals and political dissidents will have to be “physically removed” from these communities if they are to survive, have proven particularly divisive.[10][11] Hoppe also garners controversy due to his support for governmental enforcement of immigration laws, which critics argue is at odds with libertarianism and “libertarian anarchism”.[12][13]

        Hoppe has expressed criticism towards democracy, stating that a monarchy would preserve individual liberty more effectively.[14]”

         

        The ‘liberty’ protected in this kind of ‘libertarianism’ is the liberty of the rich & propertied.

        But only if they are the right kind of people (not of color, possible religious test too judging by the Chilean template, and this from Hoppe:

        ‘Hoppe writes that towns and villages could have warning signs saying “no beggars, bums, or homeless, but also no homosexuals, drug users, Jews, Muslims, Germans, or Zulus”‘.[35][36]

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans-Hermann_Hoppe

    • #401626
      bazukhov
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      always, without fail, tell us they are  killing torturing, imprisoning, raping, “For the People”.

       

      Tell me, great captain, how do the angels sleep when the devil leaves his porch light on? Tom Waites

      • #401645
        retired liberal
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        .

        We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
        The older we get, the less "Life in Prison" is a deterrent.
        Always wear a proper mask when out and about. The life you save could be both yours and mine.
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    • #401638
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      Funny kind of ‘libertarians’ ya got there.  Smell like fascists.

       

      “There can be no tolerance,” he writes, “toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and expelled from society. Likewise, in a covenant founded for the purpose of protecting family and kin, there can be no tolerance toward those habitually promoting lifestyles incompatible with this goal. They — the advocates of alternative, non-family and kin-centered lifestyles such as, for instance, individual hedonism, parasitism, nature-environment worship, homosexuality, or communism — will have to be physically removed from society, too, if one is to maintain a libertarian order.”

    • #401642
      MistaP
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      they said their own Presidents were Soviet agents, their own politicians Soviet traitors, any social change a sign of Soviet “Active Measures,” every act of violence by left or right was authored by the Soviets; feminism, environmentalism, civil rights, clergy working with the poor, opposition to war, all Soviet

      they initiated measures to “background check” people for loyalty against Russian traitors and purge the media to guard readers against Russian-planted falsehoods

      all that don’t sound like just the Trumpholes these days

    • #401651
      Voltairine
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      Intercept has become a total sell out in support of the fascist state and does mainly hate mongering like the OP crap. Boogaloo don’t wear t-shirts, their uniform is Hawaii shirts.

      Based on my extensive discussions and debates with ancaps, most of them renounce Hoppe as an outright fascist, and the helicopter meme is mostly a troll attempt against whom they perceive as authoritarian lefties. And as the propaganda exposure in USA has been, the standard assumption is that there is no such thing as libertarian socialists because “socialism is what the government does”. And who can deny that US government is plenty evil?

      Aloha!

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