What we’re seeing is not a repudiation of Trump…

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    • #374841
      sonofspy777
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      but rather a repudiation of the tried and true neoliberal policies of the Democrats. They thought

      they’d win a BIG victory because Trump is rude and has mishandled the pandemic. Most people

      looked at their usual machinations in the primaries  and resolved right then not to reward the Democratic

      party for its “caught with its hand in the cookie jar” approach to forcing its candidate down our collective throats.

       

      If  and it’s still a very large IF Biden squeaks out a win what are we facing? McConnell at the helm of government

      dictating precisely what will never reach the floor: Checks, Healthcare, Jobs… Forget ’em! Nothing will be done.

      Nothing will be done.

      “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
      ~Samuel Clemens

    • #374854
      MizzGrizz
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      Good analysis,@sonofspy777.

      There was a YUGE enthusiasm gap between Trump and Biden.Most people who voted for Joe in the general did so reluctantly.

      Joe’s support was always lackluster.

    • #374856
      N2Doc
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      What I think we saw was a severely divided country, 1/2 who worship the ground Trump walks on, and 1/2 who hate his guts and would vote for a fire hydrant if that were the only choice. It is all about Trump, Biden offers nothing in addition.

    • #374857
      Ohio Barbarian
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      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #374860
      mrdmk
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      Watching Joe Biden was like watching your lawn turn from green to brown. Kamala Harris is even worse. Also having a POC as your running mate is not going to get you votes. As a matter of fact, you may lose votes.

      I applaud Wisconsin for carefully counting the votes. If this election goes to the courts, no matter who wins, this country will become ungovernable.

      If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit WC Fields

    • #374861
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      one way or another, people will have to put pressure on leaders to meet their needs

      or get together to meet their own needs since the ptb are more interested in shoring up their own power and that of their financial enablers

       

    • #374885
      sonofspy777
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      do already have the power to turn living plants into dead ones…..

      “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
      ~Samuel Clemens

    • #374939
      xyzse
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      We’re screwed either way.  Yes, this is not a repudiation of Trump, and as I keep saying the only reason Biden has been competitive is because of the bungling of Covid, not that Hillary would have done much better.

      In this instance, it is the ones who stayed home last time that came in to vote Trump out.  The ones who voted for Trump last time, most likely voted for him once more this time.

      So, it looks like the Democrat’s path to victory is to ensure that the situation is so dismal that people just end up voting for them.  Since they obviously were offering nothing.  That’s plain sad and disgusting.

    • #375016
      snot
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      Lol!

      @mrdmk

      Destruction is easy; creation is hard, but more interesting.

    • #375020
      ArtfromArk
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      I’m so depressed. My friend from Taiwan tells me to cheer up, things will get better, but her country seems to be saner than mine at the moment.

      “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

    • #375029
      3fingerbrown
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      Assuming it is Biden, it feels like we just re-elected George W. Bush for a third term. Wall Street happy, PNAC happy, Trump hating corporate media happy, and Vichy dems happy.

      All governments lie to their citizen's, but only Americans believe theirs.

    • #375040
      jerry611
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      Not only that but the GOP is actually unexpectedly gaining in the House right now. It’s quite conceivable that the Dem majority will be down to single digits.

      We can kiss the House good-bye in the midterms. If Biden is president, there is no way in hell Democrats hold the House in 2022. We are going to have a very divided government for the foreseeable future. The “blue wave” wasn’t strong enough in 2018 and it never materialized this year.

      That’s just one the frustrating things about our political cycles in this country. There is timing involved. This cycle is fucked before it even starts.

    • #375045
      Captain Arizona
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      The media’s behavior was outrageous. Biden and dnc treatment of latinx coalition  because they supported AOC and bernie sanders came home to roost.

    • #375184
      jerry611
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      That’s well known to anyone who has eyes and has a thinking brain. The media is toast. Polling is toast. The why they’ve covered this election going all the way back to the Dem primaries is a total disgrace. Journalism being viewed as a respected profession with integrity and credibility is in serious jeopardy. The news is now highly politicized. It’s corporate-controlled. It’s becoming more and more corporate-censored.

      And the election night coverage is a joke. Look how they are calling states and now uncalling them and some networks are calling and others aren’t. What the hell. You turn on one channel and it’s one electoral count, and then another channel has a totally different count. What a clusterf***. And we wonder why everyone is questioning our election integrity?

    • #375211
      FedUp
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      I think the Dems will have Mitch right where they want him. He’ll be a great excuse why they can’t get anything done. With a Democratic Senate, they might feel some pressure to do something for ordinary people. Then again, Obama had a Democratic Congress for two years and they did jack shit, so there’s a precedent. This way they don’t have to. Either way, they don’t want to.

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