What's next? Federal troops? Strikebreakers?
April 29, 2020 at 11:24 PM - Views: 115 #309668HassleCatParticipant
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Workers don’t want to work in unsafe meat packing plants. Will the government make them? This should be fun.
April 29, 2020 at 11:34 PM #309671David the GnomeParticipant
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It is one thing to ask people to go back to work – some will, if treated respectfully. It is quite another to tell them that they “have to” and to try forcing it… nope. I mean, they could try, but it wont work – not unless they are willing to be very brutal. If they go that far, people will fight back.
It is one hell of a mess. Right now the focus is largely on meat – but other things, like grain, also need to be processed. In all likelihood, we will see a considerable reduction of available food – and significant price increases.
Will it be enough to empty grocery stores of food entirely? Not for most, I dont think – but people are going to have to be a lot less picky.
April 29, 2020 at 11:46 PM #309678
My squashes are coming up, and I need to go transplant some tomatoes.
April 29, 2020 at 11:57 PM #309682Ohio BarbarianModerator
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@gzeush If they get hungry enough, they’ll eat your produce. The food supply simply must be maintained. If it’s not, well, hungry people can do a lot of damage before they go under.
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April 30, 2020 at 12:36 AM #309694
I doubt that hungry mobs will recognize that chickweed, salsify, and scorzonera are edible, when and how to harvest them, and how to fix them. As for apartment dwellers, they should learn to recognize the weeds growing along the walkways and nature paths in their neighborhoods. The way things are going, a lot more people are going to need to watch Green Dean’s videos
April 30, 2020 at 12:54 AM #309701
April 30, 2020 at 2:38 AM #309735jwirrParticipant
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There are supposed to be surplus rations like there were supposed to be crisis supplies in a health emergency. Wonder if that stock is also empty? With the money hungry leaders and crooked people in government it would not surprise me a bit that there is NO real surplus in any commodity that was supposed to be stockpiled for just this kind of problem.
Let us hope that the rich get real smart fast. Before it gets this far.
April 30, 2020 at 2:46 AM #309739jwirrParticipant
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We worry about that with our gardens and animals we are raising. We live in a rural area but we have a lot of close neighbors – they all tell us how much they like our gardens! Most of them are middle class seniors and they already come to us when they need help with something. If they get hungry they are going to expect food also.
The rich really do want to get rid of us all. That idiot in the WH and his successors thought nothing of letting us face a pandemic with no help. I doubt that they see starvation any different.
We should be asking the questions now and finding out exactly how much surplus we have.
April 30, 2020 at 6:30 AM #309825
Like in Eastern Europe, after the fall of Communism and while the oligarchs were deciding who would steal what. When (not if) it happens here, you’re going to have to rely on the flea markets, where enterprising people sell things they have hoarded or fixed or made at home. I haven’t been to our local flea market since the lockdown began (I’m in GA, so it will be open this Saturday, even if few show up), but it’s a place where you can find food, clothing, housewares, tools, appliances, auto parts, etc.
Even if paper money goes worthless, there will be barter, or some readily exchangeable commodity will take its place. It may be a little more primitive than swiping your card and getting next day delivery, but people will learn to make do.
April 30, 2020 at 12:34 AM #309693
April 30, 2020 at 12:41 AM #309696D503Participant
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That’s what is lacking in this admin. The RW thinking that if we don’t need something right now, we’ll defund it. Isn’t that what FEMA is for? Isn’t this a Federal Emergency?
The entire situation is here because the American people can’t be trusted to elect someone qualified to do the job, even when the choice is right in front of them.
We are indeed, a 3rd world nation.
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April 30, 2020 at 2:18 AM #309729Cold Mountain TrailParticipant
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“The RW thinking that if we don’t need something right now, we’ll defund it”
–The RW thinking is, if it helps ordinary people, we’ll defund it, the better to put them all at our mercy & work them like slaves. And everything (except military goods) should be ‘just-in-time’ which doesn’t work when the unexpected arrives like nemesis.
And that goes for the fake left too (Pelosi/Schumer & whoever else fits that shoe)
April 30, 2020 at 12:56 AM #309703Red CloudParticipant
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If we were dirt, farmers would feed us all that throw away food just to keep prices high. I know of one “farmer”who gets paid $50 K a year NOT to grow. Then he complains about welfare recipients.
Remember when food prices shot through the roof because gas prices went up? Well shoot them back down now as gas prices are plummeting.
April 30, 2020 at 2:20 AM #309730Cold Mountain TrailParticipant
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There are many such who get paid not to grow & good reason for it in principle, but there are a lot of free riders (and some big names in there) who ‘farm’ mainly to take advantage of the tax breaks.
April 30, 2020 at 2:42 AM #309737HassleCatParticipant
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Originally, the Soil Bank program was implemented to discourage over-tilling farm land. This helped keep the last few inches of top soil from washing or blowing away. Then came the Diverted Acres program, which helped contain erosion and reduced over-production so we would not destabilize markets for corn, wheat, soybeans, etc. Eventually, as with all government programs, wealthy farmers and big agra figured out how to exploit the program and give nothing in return. Now it’s just another way for the Big Boys to stamp out the little people.
April 30, 2020 at 3:34 AM #309753FasttenseParticipant
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Is offer higher pay. That would get people to come into a capitalist corporation to work, good pay and benefits. Why can’t they do that?
Does anyone else think it is weird that Trump trashes China but helps them get sick American workers back to work before helping Americans with masks or tests.
Why didn’t he just tell them not to manufacture bio weapons in labs then they wouldn’t have this problem…I don’t think this but Trump supports such stupid ideas.
Or and here is a weird idea, make the workplace safe. It can be done.
There are so many different and better solutions then what Trump did.
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