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    • #310081
      snot
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      [To my friends on facebook & the like] “No I am not going to accept your invitation to download and install privacy-invasive third-party software just because you couldn’t be bothered to use a less obnoxious alternative even after I f—ing pointed it out to you.”

      [Wanting to add: “WTF is wrong with you people do you not give even the tiniest sh*t about your rights…”]

      Destruction is easy; creation is hard, but more interesting.

    • #310168
      mrdmk
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      Please provide a backstory. It is hard to make out what you are dealing with.

      If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit WC Fields

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      • #310277
        snot
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        E.g., why make me create an account and disable my privacy protections just to download a document you could send me by email?  Then after doing all that, I also have to record my password and, if I want to preserve what privacy I’ve got left, remember to sign out, re-enable my privacy protections, delete my cookies, etc.  Plus a lot of these apps are constantly bugging you to click on something you shouldn’t, making it easy if not inevitable to accidentally give them access to all your contacts, your cell number, etc.

        I can see why some account creation etc. might actually enhance security when you’re transmitting financial or medical records; but I’m annoyed when people force me to implement some new app or platform just because they think it’s new so it must be improved, when mostlly what’s improved is third parties’ ability to scoop up more of your data.

        Please forgive me; I’m feeling frustrated that people not only go along with this sh*t so thoughtlessly but actually inflict it on others – it seems like another instance of larger problems…

         

        Destruction is easy; creation is hard, but more interesting.

        • #310366
          Cold Mountain Trail
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          that people went along with it mindlessly (& often gleefully) is how we got where we are.  Nothing like giving away your power to your jailers while talking about your ‘freedom’

           

          Security and Privacy Implications of Zoom

          Over the past few weeks, Zoom’s use has exploded since it became the video conferencing platform of choice in today’s COVID-19 world. (My own university, Harvard, uses it for all of its classes. Boris Johnson had a cabinet meeting over Zoom.) Over that same period, the company has been exposed for having both lousy privacy and lousy security. My goal here is to summarize all of the problems and talk about solutions and workarounds.

          In general, Zoom’s problems fall into three broad buckets: (1) bad privacy practices, (2) bad security practices, and (3) bad user configurations.

          Privacy first: Zoom spies on its users for personal profit. It seems to have cleaned this up somewhat since everyone started paying attention, but it still does it.

          The company collects a laundry list of data about you, including user name, physical address, email address, phone number, job information, Facebook profile information, computer or phone specs, IP address, and any other information you create or upload. And it uses all of this surveillance data for profit, against your interests…

          https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/04/security_and_pr_1.html

    • #310262
      Betty Karlson
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      Or has Mark Zuckerberg developed a new privacy invasion?

    • #310289
      Babel 17
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      I’ve read some suggestions that there can be issues with it.

      I just realized that the Amish virus in one of its most basic forms, sent by mail, could now be real, though afaik COVID-19 doesn’t last too long on paper.

      http://upperregister.com/~charlie/AmishVirus.html

       

      • #312170
        snot
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        @babel17 ; please see above for more details.  And yes, there are issues with EVERY app and platform that is not owned and controlled by the users.

        Many people say resistance is futile, but that’s just what they want us to believe, to the extent they can’t keep us completely ignorant of what’s being done to us.

        It reminds me of the early days of TV, when people thought it could be a wonderful tool for public enlightenment and empowerment; and small segments of it have been that; but mostly it was co-opted by megacorps and made into another tool for distraction and extraction.

        Destruction is easy; creation is hard, but more interesting.

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