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    • #332503
      David the Gnome
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      First, let me say: There is a difference between despising Trump – and loving Biden.  Those who truly despise Trump (who do so being aware of WHY) can’t truly find Biden to be all that much better – unless their eyes closed very tightly, they have plugged their hears and are going through life with a: “La la la, I can’t HEAR YOU!”

      Trump is severely criticized – and rightly so – every day on nearly any media website you look at.  It is even more critical if you happen to watch one of the mainstream news networks on cable/satellite/etc.  This is as it should be – he is a vicious, malicious, greedy, arrogant, cruel, altogether rotten to the core man.  None of this has anything to do with Trump being good, or me liking him or preferring him – it has to do with who Joe Biden is.  If, say, anyone left of center looks at his career, his history, the policies he has fought to push through… there is a reoccurring theme:

      Favors war, cuts to the safety net, favors segregated schools (until it became unpopular), did not favor gay marriage (until it became socially acceptable to do so) and the list goes on and on.  Hopefully I need not point out the specific policies to the people here, hopefully we are reasonably well aware of them.  So let me cut right to the point: Biden is a greedy, ignorant, malicious, cruel and bigoted imbecile – and that is without taking into account whether he may or may not be suffering from dementia.  For decades, he has been a democrat in name only, serving the most conservative, right wing causes and denying all cries for justice.
      https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-universal-basic-income-bernie-sanders-elon-musk-864801
      I am not a fan of newsweek, but it seems hard to find more particulars about his statement/s regarding universal basic income elsewhere/  Some quotes:

      “”Every time someone would lose a job, my dad would say, ‘You know, Joey, a job is about a lot more than a paycheck. It’s about dignity, it’s about respect.’ It’s about your place in the community. It’s about being able to look your kid in the eye and saying, ‘Honey, it’s going to be OK.’ That’s what it’s about. Dignity,” he said. “Getting an annual wage, you sit home and do nothing. You strip people of their dignity.””

      “Those who support the idea of a universal basic income are “class clueless,” former Vice President Joe Biden said in an interview Wednesday.”

      And a lovely little quote from Mr. Elon Musk:

      “Biden is not alone in expressing concern about what universal basic income would do to Americans’ sense of purpose. Elon Musk, founder of Tesla and SpaceX, has come to similar conclusions. “If there’s no need for your labor, what’s your meaning?” Musk asked at the World Government Summit in Dubai last year. “Do you feel useless? That’s a much harder problem to deal with.””

      The gist of it is that if we don’t provide labor for rich pricks like Musk and Biden – we have no meaning – we are useless and ought to feel so – according to these two rich pricks, anyhow.  They will not put it in terms quite so blunt, but that is what they mean.  Now, pretty much every (American) politician under the sun lays claim to some kind of “Christian” faith.  Somehow, they all conveniently ignore every damn thing the bible – and Christ himself – had to say about the rich.  Somehow they did not read, or entirely misread the new testament.  “For I was hungry and you gave me to eat…”

      We are in fucking crisis.  This is not a joke or an exaggeration.  Whatever your opinion on the virus or the economic situation, it cannot be denied that at present, tens of millions of jobs have been lost.  It cannot be denied that thousands of businesses have closed, that manufacturers have shutdown, that schools are closed – and many likely to remain so well into the next academic year.  Yesterday, we saw over fifty thousand new cases… in the U.S. alone.  The economic outlook, the environmental outlook, well, ladies and gentlemen, the projections are pretty fucking bad, to say the least.

      Biden has vowed to veto medicare for all, in the event that a miracle occurred and it passed.  He has displayed only contempt for the poor – he has supported every war – and every right wing social policy that I would hope most if not all of us oppose on principle.  So.. I’m going to ask the obvious question again that I asked in my title.  Why does the media love Biden?  The man cannot talk without putting his foot in his mouth, he really has no progressive record to stand on – and says things so idiotic that it is more than clear he has nothing at all in common with the working or middle class.  As for the poor?  Forget it.

      So how is it then, that all of these liberal media groups, anchors, reporters and what have you… have nothing but praise for Joe Biden?  Or at the very least, criticize him very rarely, very lightly – and I suspect only to keep up appearances.

      I know what some are thinking: “It is because he isn’t Trump!”  To which I must reply: So what?  He’s bad enough all on his own.

      Now let me add a final note – that a lot here might take exception with – I am struggling about whether or not to vote for him as the lesser of two evils.  Almost my whole family is doing so, pretty much every facebook friend – I can’t even talk about this shit on facebook without getting very condescending and contemptuous replies from friends and family.  They think I don’t get it.  They are comfortably middle class – they do not understand that Biden will be a lot fucking worse for people like me than for them.  It is not just peer pressure that makes me consider whether to cast my vote for a terrible human being – it is the question of whether he might do LESS damage than Trump.  I do not know.

      I spent most of my adult life working for rich pricks, the reality of our system is that nearly all of us who are working, work for such.  That is not the way democracy should work, it is not the way life was ever meant to be.  Our ancestors knew better (even as they struggled under the same masters of the world in their own time) when they farmed the land and ate what they grew, when they worked – not so some asshole could have twentieth house on the beach – but so that they could eat and live.  Now it has come to a point where if you do not have a job (whatever it may be) you are considered to be, as Musk would say: “Useless”.  Well, I’ve got news for Mr. Musk and Mr. Biden – they’re both stupid assholes.

      One of the small details of our lives is the dealings of our trade/s (I do not mean what we do at work – I mean the kind of work we do – or even if we have a “job”, it is, after all, not the same thing as “work”).  It won’t mean much how many hours we put in at this job or that – what will matter is how we effect the lives of those we come into contact with.  What will matter is how kind, how generous, how decent we are in the limited time we have upon this earth.  The hubris of the wealthy will not only be their undoing – but the undoing of civilization.  It is not “going to happen” – it is already happening.  This year it is more evident than ever that climate change is going to have its way with us… and Trump isn’t the only one doing nothing.

      Where is Congress?  Where is the Senate?  Where are our leaders?  It seems increasingly apparently that they have all sold their souls for their own ambitions – primarily wealth.  We cannot look to them, we cannot count on them.  I hope that I am wrong about my pessimistic outlook – but the evidence overwhelmingly suggests things are going to get harder, that life for anyone not rich is going to get harder.  That the poor will get poorer, that this idiotic notion of “rugged individualism” is about as Anti-Christian and about as anti-human as you can get.  When scientists describe climate change as a potential “extinction event” – they aren’t fucking around.

      Nor am I fucking around when I say that without care being given for poverty and for the poor, there is going to be mass chaos.  Yes, a revolution or civil war can still very well happen – it will happen when people have nothing to eat, no job available, no money… and nothing left to lose.  We are getting there – and that is not just on Trump.  It is on the whole gaggle of fucking shmucks that make up our ruling elite.

      That’s my ten cents – and I don’t care if you didn’t want a nickel.

    • #332504
      MikeW285
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    • #332506
      David the Gnome
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      @mikew285

      Pardon my lack of patience – but I said the exact same damn thing in my post that you didn’t bother to read.

      Here, let me help: “I know what some are thinking: “It is because he isn’t Trump!”  To which I must reply: So what?  He’s bad enough all on his own.”

      If you have something to add, an argument, or whatever, I’ll be glad to read it, debate or agree with you.  If you’re just fucking around, I’d ask that you consider time and effort goes into the OPs – and you’re really just proving my point.

    • #332508
      MikeW285
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      Yeah, I have no argument, David.

      Since one day after tRump’s election, it’s been trump bad 24-7. MSM been crying wolf for four years and it’s wearing thin. I’m not just fucking around, just fucking tired of tRump AND the cheater Democrats. We need a viable third party, yesterday.  I’ll quit my whinin’ now.

      Have a Happy 4th.  Mike

    • #332513
      jbnw
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      It’s part of propaganda for the few that own them. Biden is their choice and will do what is needed to make them richer – it’s why they only cover his lovable gaffes and not his heinous history.

    • #332517
      jwirr
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      Because their corporate owners do.

      jwirr

    • #332522
      FedUp
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      Unfortunately, mainstream Democrats don’t care enough about what they’re voting for to take a look at Biden’s record. This election is all about getting rid of Trump and TPTB decided early on to foist Biden on us, hoping that Trump would fuck up to the point of no return and if he didn’t, they could live with that, too. Biden is completely uninspirational and no one thinks he’s a terrific candidate who’s going to do anything for ordinary Americans.Had it not been for his piss poor reaction to the pandemic, Trump would be on his way to a second term. As it is, we may have to endure a couple of years of a feeble, cognitively impaired man reading speeches off a teleprompter while his right wing cohorts pull the strings and the right of center Veep awaits the call that it’s time to take the oath.

    • #332527
      Punxsutawney
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      Is that Biden will be bad for them as well. It’l just take longer for the problems to affect them. The neoliberal policies that Biden and his “friends” on the right will impose on us will continue the wealth extraction upwards. A few will survive and prosper in service to the aristocracy no doubt, but the world they live in will be less pleasant, and more dangerous. Covid a case in point, but there will be other problems.

      My evidence of this. My entire adult life it has gotten more and more difficult to make a decent living and money and power have been concentrated in fewer and fewer hands. Jobs have been outsourced to low wage countries, and not just steel workers or manufacturing, but high tech and knowledge work as well. Biden, “Nothing will change!” So of course the oligarchic media supports that. The owners of such at least.

      In America, “Liberty” means “Free to Die in Service of Capital” - Amfortas the hippie

    • #332528
      Red Cloud
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      So media will soon be blamed for airing Trump’s racist and white supremacist bs 24-7, and to obfuscate their butt kissing they are hiding behind Biden who is chillin.

    • #332543
      Ohio Barbarian
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      The media is mostly corrupt. They don’t practice journalism anymore; only propaganda for their corporate masters. Don’t forget that most of the talking heads are millionaires, so it is in their own individual interests to promote the status quo.

      What scares me the most about Biden, in a selfish and personal way, is that he wants to cut Social Security. He always has. I worry I won’t be able to retire at 67 as I can now, and will get less when I do. Republican presidents can never get away with cutting it; only Democrats can.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #332545
      gordyfl
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      For one, Biden never criticizes the “corporate billionaire-owned media” (as Bernie would call them).

      Trump attacks the media’s credibility regularly. They also attack his credibility.

      Corporate Joe is their man, although I believe they could live with Trump for 4 more years, but not Bernie.

      Biden is the safest choice for them and they don’t want to miss out on this golden opportunity.

    • #332556
      elias39
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      Because they’re being told to love Biden. By their overlords. They get big paychecks to get on the bandwagon and don’t want to file for unemployment. I think it’s as simple as that. If you saw the most recent Mr Fish cartoon, you see what I mean. Lots of people liked Bernie early on. But when he started to win primaries, the fix went in, starting with Clyburn. The media ‘love Biden’ because the rich and powerful hated Bernie. Case closed. If TPTB had decided to support Warren or Harris or  gawd- forbid Tom Steyer, the media would swoon in the same way. Joe Biden is a short-term place holder for the pathetic Democrat party. And so we’ll see who gets the nod for VP. That’s who the media Really supports.

    • #332557
      Punxsutawney
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      It’s been a goal of Wall Street since the Clinton years, at least. And the one thing that both parties agree on is what the Street wants, it should get, and “Austerity” for the people.


      @ohiobarbarian

      In America, “Liberty” means “Free to Die in Service of Capital” - Amfortas the hippie

    • #332564
      David the Gnome
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      @mikew285

      I’m even more on edge than usual right now.  I’m just, in real life… surrounded by people who don’t know any of this or even care to know.  They think Biden will be great, maybe the opposite of Trump or something.  I know better.  The best we can hope for is that he will do less harm.

      It may all be irrelevant anyway.  If things continue as they are without action… The election will be among the least of (most of our) concerns.  The evictions, the lack of support or even direction from government, well…

      I hope I live another year.  I’d like to at least get to forty, maybe even sixty some day… but, well, the lunatics are in charge of the asylum.

    • #332597
      salemcourt
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      Ultimately Biden will promote free trade, Obamacare, more war, and cut to SS.  He will then continue the Trump-era tax cuts!  That is exactly what the media owners want and the puppets in the media just promote Biden.  As I said before, we can expect upwards of 95% of the editorials to support Biden over Trump.  This shows that Biden is more harmful to poor and lower-middle-class people.  Professional suburban who are in the upper-middle class and the rich will benefit from Biden.

    • #332637
      HassleCat
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      Mike may be simply endorsing your post in his own way. I know this because I sometimes offer little smart-ass quips that sound flippant or contrary. Got me kicked off another site.

    • #332640
      bazukhov
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      This election isn’t about ideology or even issues.   It’s about Trump.

      There is no “The Media”.   There is a Major Media.

      Their goal is to make money by making news a product that sells.   To sell their product they have to appeal to customers to buy them and have the money to buy what they advertise.  Since most of Trump’s supporters are lower middle class Whites who can’t buy the products advertised they’d be damned fools to seek them out over the more affluent anti-Trump customers.   The Major Media isn’t so much pro- Biden as they are after the money that being anti-Trump will provide them.

      Fortunately, Trump has made himself the object of ridicule and loathing on both issues and personality and Biden will win by simply being anti-Trump and Not Hillary.

      Tell me, great captain, how do the angels sleep when the devil leaves his porch light on? Tom Waites

    • #332647
      HassleCat
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      You are not alone in wrestling with the choice of voting for him as the lesser evil. It’s a moral dilemma and there is no good answer. Biden seems reassuring because he is not Trump, yes, but more than that, because he appears to be what Trump is not. He projects an image of compassion, concern, moderation, sobriety, common sense, humanity, humility, etc. He espouses traditional values in the face of value-free opportunism. In times like these, that is enough to inspire many people to believe they are voting for a savior. The media enjoy this because it presents an easily explainable contrast between Trump and Biden, and drawing that contrast is much easier to get into a sound bite than talking about issues and policy positions.

    • #332657
      MizzGrizz
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      Biden’s a good little boy who will uphold the status quo.Bernie might have actually wanted to break up the media conglomerates.Less money for them under any other rules but the current ones.

    • #332800
      ravensong
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      Sorry, but no matter how many bad things Biden may have done, the number will never come close to the astronomical amount of fail and rotten things that Trump has done in the past 3 1/2 years.

      If it’s any consolation to ya, they’d even elect me POTUS, if I had the best chance of beating Trump. They’d elect my cat POTUS if she had the best chance of beating Trump.

      Trump is so bad that you will never be able to dig up enough negative information about Biden that could possibly prevent voters from electing Biden.  Trump has simply sunk so low that he found the hidden trap door at the bottom, and fell in.

      Another national record for number of new cases of the Red Death today, over 56,000 new cases as I post this.  Believing in Trump and his lies is killing his supporters all across Red State America.

      “A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority.” ~ Booker T. Washington

      The truth is, there’s no such thing as being “anti-Fascist.” Either you are a decent human being with a conscience, or you are a fascist.
      ~ Unknown

    • #332814
      mrdmk
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      Because Joe ‘More of the Same’ Biden has not threaten to break up the media monopoly. Both, Trump and Sanders have said the media is a monopoly in the 2016 elections. Sanders ever stated the media needs to be broken up. We know what happened to Sanders with a media blackout in 2016 and 2020.

      Here is what the media knows, “But, you know—it (Trump Campaign, “…it…” maybe a better discription) may not be good for America, but it’s damn good for CBS, that’s all I got to say.” (Les Moonvies, CBS CEO Retired)

      Me personally, the war between Trump and the media is kabuki theater.

      If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit WC Fields

    • #332832
      LiberalCat
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      The media does not love Joe Biden.

      After Labor Day, they will do anything they can to tear him down.

    • #332856
      sadoldgirl
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      @ravensong:

      Sorry, you must have forgotten how many people died in

      the Iraq war, how he supported the war against Assad, and

      what happened in Libya with our great help. Biden called

      the Ukrainian Nazis “freedom fighters” and interfered in

      their government.How many people died with his approval?

      I detest Trump, but Biden’s sins, while quietly covered up,

      are equally bad if not worse.

    • #332880
      closeupready
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      When people talk about the Uniparty, they are saying that the Republicans represent the conservative branch of the Uniparty (pro-oligarchy forces) and that the Democrats represent the less conservative branch of the Uniparty.  “Uni” because on issues important to oligarchs, there is NO OPPOSITION.

      Bloated defense budgets?  100% support in Congress.

      Tax cuts for the 1%?  51-67% support in Congress.

      Cutting social programs?  51-67% support in Congress.

      Millionaire members of the media like Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg and Rachel Maddow and Wolf Blitzer know that Biden will support the oligarchs’ agenda because he was paid well all his career to do so; Trump may or may not do so, he’s a wild card.  Ergo, they have no choice.  They must not support Trump, no matter what, or else they would lose their overpaid gigs at MSNBC and CNN and such.

      The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

    • #332884
      Piperay
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      around. They know that Biden is going to be nothing but a puppet with some insider’s hand up his ass controlling  his every thought and decision.

    • #332911
      Yanath
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      @sadoldgirl

      Crimes committed against Americans are much much worse, even if they’re not as bloody and destructive.

      “The media” (more precisely, the media establishment’s owners, who own lots of other shit too) prefer Biden because he doesn’t say the quiet parts out loud.

    • #332917
      JonLP
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      I was actually worried about nukes with Trump and so far he hasn’t sunk that low. I had very low expectations. Where was all this for Clinton?

    • #332919
      Captain Arizona
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      They are all corporate establishment stooges!

    • #332936
      RufusTFirefly
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      He’s “bad for the brand.”

      I’m reminded of the concept of the “Hitler-less Reich.”

      Fascists used nationalism and xenophobia primarily as ploys to wrangle the rabble. Their primary goals were the continued accumulation of wealth and power in the hands of a few and a steady increase in corporate control. Like Hitler, Trump has been pretty good on those fronts. But like Hitler, Trump has become bad for elite PR. His methods are uncouth – too naked and obvious, while his actions can be unpredictable. They need a puppet who’s less of an embarrassment, someone who can further their goals without drawing undo attention to those goals.

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