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    Why I am a PROOFER

    Melissa, djean111, Passionate Progressive and 31 othersjdpriestly, NuttyFluffers, Pastiche, MrMickeysMom, FanBoy, Shlabotnik, sabrina, cui bono, Babel 17, Melissa G, Ohio Barbarian, bbgrunt, MistaP, snot, daleanime, 7wo7rees, Koko, KarenS, Bearian, TM99, , Haikugal, Mom Cat, Scuba, Downwinder, IdaBriggs, nenagh, CNW, pacalo, ThinkingANew, Betty Karlson like this

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  • Betty Karlson (4043 posts)
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    1. +1.

    "Someone hacks the DNC allowing all of America to see how the DNC operates as one of the most corrupt political machines in national history. Ergo, Hillary Clinton should be installed as President by judicial fiat. And if you do not agree to this scheme you deserve to be brought up on charges of treason because fascism." - NUGrrl, december 2016 “Once a person has been determined to be an UNTRUSTWORTHY LIAR, their pretend stances on important issues are simply not relevant to rational discussion.” – Ida Briggs, September 2016
  • CNW (2492 posts)
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    2. We have good reason to doubt officialdom news, it usually isn't true.

  • Mom Cat (14815 posts)
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    3. Demand proof for extraordinary claims! The whole Russian hacker story is an

    embarrassment. Do they really think we are that stupid. Put up or shut up.

         NEVER FORGET      BERNIE WON!          
    • Ohio Barbarian (5337 posts)
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      4. They really think most Americans are that stupid.

      Ignorance is the foundation of tyranny.   
      • Mom Cat (14815 posts)
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        5. And maybe many are. That is why we need to keep challenging the

        establishment fake news.

             NEVER FORGET      BERNIE WON!          
        • Snort McDork (2677 posts)
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          6. At first glance I thought it said "Roofer".

          • Mom Cat (14815 posts)
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            8. Ha! Good one!

                 NEVER FORGET      BERNIE WON!          
  • FanBoy (7985 posts)
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    7. and +1,000,000

  • Lord Thomas (1922 posts)
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    9. Just so i am clear.

    I see proofer thrown about a lot lately, at first I thought is was Obama BC. Been trying to figure it out by context.

    Proofer is someone that does not believe what the Gov – MSM – Internet or whoever without outside verification.

    Is that correct?


    The Only Consistent Thing in Life is Change.

    • djean111 (5259 posts)
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      10. I think that "proofer" is what people who want proof of Russian "hacking"

      are being called.  IMO, an attempt to belittle and marginalize and deflect by making up a name that brings up a similarity to “birther”.

      • *Obligatory disclaimer - when I say "Democratic Party" I mean the DNC - the Clintons and the un-elected people and the consultants and the lobbyists and the corporations who actually run things.  The people who work and vote and are registered as "D" are no more the actual party than Trekkies are Star Trek.   Extra credit - the Democratic Party gets to actually fuck up your life. When you vote for it.
      You think the only reason that people won't vote for a warmongering Third Way fracking-enabling cluster bomb throwing H-1B increasing lying pandering corporate and Wall Street shill who says she has no problem putting abortion rights on the table is because we are mad about Bernie?  Um, nope.
      • Lord Thomas (1922 posts)
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        11. Got it Thanks

        Sometimes it’s hard to keep up.

        The Only Consistent Thing in Life is Change.

  • rallison (68 posts)
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    12. The Russian hacking has taken

    the focus off the leaks themselves. The collusion, theft, all of it. No one disputed the contents of the leaks. The hacking stories are masterpiece, and should be studied, example of propaganda.