Why we need an airline passenger bill of rights.

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      This guy had his flight cancelled and got reimbursed by the airline because they worried about the bad publicity over screwing a US soldier. How about the rest of us? They cancel our flights and don’t even tell us why, let alone compensate us. Thanks Ronald Reagan, for deregulating the airlines and making tickets cheaper. Air travel is frustrating, a horrible ordeal, an incredible failure, but its pretty cheap. That’s all we want — cheap.

      On edit: some answers to comments from Retired Liberal. I worked for TSA.

      The shoe thing is complicated, and changes from time to time. At one time, we made people remove their footware if they were a certain thickness. Then we started making everybody send all shoes through the x-ray machine. It also varies from one airport to another, adding to the confusion. The last I knew, shower shoes with thin soles were okay, but beach sandals with thick soles had to be x-rayed.

      The bins got cleaned when we felt like cleaning them. For a while, they supplied us with spray bottles of 409 and we cleaned bins during slack periods. Then they decided the 409 was too expensive, so that went away. We suggested building a bin cleaning station in the basement, but our idea was not well received. I notice some airports have non-TSA airport employees to do some extra cleaning, including the bins, but they are generally pretty scuzzy.

      Your little wrench was probably recognized as a wrench by the x-ray operator. After a few weeks experience, most operators can recognize an amazing variety of objects, distinguish a Bic lighter from a torch lighter, spot the little knives disguised as credit cards, etc. Tools sometimes have to be checked to make sure they can’t be used to sabotage the aircraft, and larger tools are generally not allowed as carry-on. Another possibility is that your wrench went through on edge, which would make it look like a small pistol on the x-ray screen.
      It’s a pain, isn’t it?

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      retired liberal
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      Those bins they use to put your stuff in for the X-ray machine are never cleaned. Nobody really knows where those shoes have been, or what from the shoes is left behind, or why you suddenly have a case of dermatitis shortly after take-off.
      Back when I was still flying they even made people wearing flip-flops take them off and put them in a bin for the X-ray machine. Come on, flip-flops?
      One time my carry on was searched because the person eye-balling the X-ray machine screen, did not recognize a 4 inch crescent wrench on my key ring. She had no idea what it was. Yet my green Xcelite screwdriver in my shirt pocket, was no problem. Although I did get chewed out one time at a California airport for having metal rivets on my jeans.
      Reading other people’s flying stories makes me glad I don’t have to fly anymore.

      We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
      If Row vs. Wade is overturned, women could lose the right to not get pregnant in 26 states.
      The Republicans are four year olds. The Democrats are six year olds. There are no grownups.
      Normalizing insanity has been the conservative's sweet spot at very least since the beginning..

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      Ohio Barbarian
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