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    Why we're still angry and won't let it go

    Introduction
    The 1992-2016 Clinton machine’s mantra has been Machiavelli’s “politics is war” nostrum.  Italian Renaissance political philosopher and historian Niccolò Machiavelli wrote The Art of War, a small book that all Rhodes Scholars are obligated to learn by rote. Machiavelli “developed the philosophy of limited warfare—that is, when diplomacy fails, war is an extension of politics.” [1]  This strategy was so intrinisic to their campaign that George Stephanopolous dubbed their 1992 headquarters the ‘war room’.

    In war, one uses terms like “attack” and “tactics” and “collateral damage”.  One expects the opponent to deploy false flags, feints, lies, thieves and spies because, naturally, your opponent is fighting also as if a war was underway.  It’s little surprise that the word “campaign” is applicable in both military and political contexts.

    The USA is clearly proud of its reputation as the most indomitable military force on the planet. The common belief is that our tools of war — both soft and hard power — are deployed with the goal of achieving or maintaining some semblance of Peace on Earth, that is, we’ve supported ungodly increases to the Pentagon’s War & Peace Budget specifically because our Christian society has adopted a “Savior Mentality” as a powerful justification for practically all our foreign adventures.

    Clinton’s mantra that politics is war by another name, has received unblinking support all these years because it “fits” with the American psyche so well. The Democrat Party approved this strategy, including all its black & gray arts, for a number of seemingly indisputable reasons, the most obvious being that Richard Nixon’s successful campaigns were based on dirty-tricks and illegal break-ins.

    In the 2016 primary this politics-is-war strategy was publicly announced and pursued, without remorse, against not only Bernie Sanders himself but also the (young) people who supported Sanders[2]:

    Shadowproof has documented a pattern of dishonest attacks and rumors, particularly since January. The attacks include: Sanders supports Minutemen vigilantes and similar anti-immigrant hate groups, Sanders opposed bailing out auto workers, Sanders supports the NRA, Sanders wants to dismantle the Affordable Health Care Act, Sanders supported the indefinite detention of immigrants, and Sanders sees President Barack Obama as “weak” and will not support Obama’s legacy.

    Your friends are NOT your enemies
    The Hillary Clinton campaign used all the tools of war to fend off Bernie Sanders campaign’s threat to her nomination.  How many times at Site Voldemort did Bernie supporters try to reason, as fellow Democrats, with the Hillary supporters? We heard clearly their sentiment that we were politial neophytes, Johnny-come-latelies, and even now, that we’re not Democrats?

    Applying the tactics of war against friends is what has stuck in my craw all these months, it’s downright self-defeating (evidence: Hillary lost the election and the Party is losing its base ever since).

    John Lichtenfield said “one need not make peace with friends, only with enemies”. The Hillary campaign, by virtue of its war (tactics), literally branded us as enemies, not their friends. How in the world can they rationally believe we might treat them as friends, once again? There’s no reason to, even with all Brazillian apologies in the world?

    Conclusion
    They treated us as the enemy; we would be foolish to think they even have the capacity much less the desire, to ever change their tune.

    Calls for a 3rd party are rational: those ‘friends’ remain empowered to treat us as enemies again in the future, to feint the football exactly like Lucy did repeatedly to the nation’s erstwhile friend, Charlie Brown.

    In short, the abusive relationship forced on us by our once-called friends at the “Underground” (what a crock!) must stop if the Democratic Party is to survive. Their behavior (look at SV these days, months after the election) is without qualification, unacceptable.

    Postscript
    This is why Ellison’s calls for unity ring so damn hollow[3].

    [1] The_Art_of_War
    [2] ‘Disqualify’ And ‘Defeat’: Clinton Campaign Attacks Intensify To Halt Sanders’ Win Streak
    [3] Former Sanders Backer Continues to Cringingley ‘Stand Up’ for Hillary Clinton

     

     

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  • ThouArtThat (5505 posts)
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    1. Small Point – The Art Of War – Was Written By Sun Tzu – Not Machiavelli

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    • hypergrove (196 posts)
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      2. oh darn now you know, I ain't a Rhodes Scholar either .. :) /eom

      J ! Justice, Democrats, Justice ! P ! Primary the Corporatists ! R ! Roosevelt’s 2nd Bill of Rights !
      • ThouArtThat (5505 posts)
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        4. Maybe One Is Thinking Of Machiavelli's The Prince

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      • ThouArtThat (5505 posts)
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        6. I stand Corrected – Machiavelli Did Write A Treatise Called The Art Of War

        Dell’Arte della Guerra (1519–1520) – The Art of War, high military science.

        See the Wikipedia entry under other political and historical works.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Machiavelli

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    • OzoneTom (860 posts)
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      5. Right, Machiavelli best known for "The Prince"

      A political treatise considered the reason for “negative connotations of the words ‘politics’ and ‘politician’ in western countries.”

      Pleased to have matching hands and feet.
    • FanBoy (7985 posts)
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      9. never mind, should have read further in thread

       

       

       

  • Ferd Berfel (5264 posts)
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    …and you think you’re going to stop this simply by ‘pulling a lever’, in a booth, behind a curtain, every 2 years? - Know yourself. And if you need help with that, call the FBI. -  There is only ONE solution to this mess:  New Party !  
  • PADemD (1195 posts)
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    7. The Democrat Party?

    Democratic Party is the correct term.

    • hypergrove (196 posts)
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      8. omg, my oh-so-bad /eom

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    • FanBoy (7985 posts)
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      10. .