with primarys over we can safely say
no place for progressives in democratic party.The idea progressives taking over democratic party is complete nonesense.
via wikileaks we know dem establishment has a lot o finfuence with msm.first off they will black out challengers to establishment and then do their purging of voters
we have seen with gillum in florida governor race and pressly in mass house primary hilary loyalists can pretend to be progressive to win primary.gillum is already showing is true colors as a centerist.
remember Ben Jealous who supported bernie in 16 who was able to win primay for governor in maryland isn’t being supported by dems at all.yet progressives are excepted to support establishment dems.
progressives beat ine inucmbent in primarys but that was balanced by reall progressive defeated by fake progressive.
i am going to critze bernie here.he supported no primary challenge to any dem senators or governors.I have bad feeling he madea decsion to help his 2020 run by not supporting primarys to sitting dem senators or govenrors.
dems may have good night in november for one reason anti-trump wave.it isn’t exactly a dem wave but anti-trump wave.here in missouri i am going to vote for every green on ballot i can.i don’t care if Mccaskill loses or not because of my vote.i don’t vote for republicans or trump supporters.she is actully both.
as for 2020 remember this Bernie may be kept out of primarys by the loyalty clause.but even if he is allowed i except 1 of 2 things to happen
1-dems and msm will claim he isn’t even all that progressive and push a neoliberal as real progressive
2-if biden collopses and dem primary polling has bernie,warren,harris,and gillabrand as top 4 even if bernie is in front expect to hear via surrgotes and msm is we have had enough of white men as presidents time for a female president and democratic party should nominate woman.so more of the bernie and his supporters are sexists attacks.
If bernie is allowed to run in primarys especilly if Bloomberg is allowed to run as dem with crowded field I have suspecion this may be their gameplan
Hope biden collopses for starters.then support warren and hope she is able to take enough support from bernie to eather allow Harris to get more pledged delegates on first ballot or keep Bernie from getting enough delegates to win nomination on first ballot and then on second ballot they can eather drag Harris over finish line or push her ahead of bernie.Warren then picked by Harris as her vp and then MSM promets this as first 2 women progressive ticket.and like 2016 any bernie supporters who refuse to support harrisWarren are racists or sexists.
nothing is going to change with dems.Bernie is so wrong.with Pelosi as speaker again the corposts and neocons still win.main difference is all the house investigations of trump and his officials.
i see the senate going one of three ways
1-Gop mains 51 to 49 majority
2-GOP picks up 1 or 2 seasts to a 52 to 48 or 53 to 47 thanks to worthless trump voting neoliberal dems
3-dems take a 51 to 49 majority
even if it is 3 having Schumer as majority leader won’t change much.
so my attitude is progressives need to leave democratic party or as i call it the Clinton party.
and let’s remember i still don’t think it is crazy Clinton doesn’t run again in 2020.we have seen evidence of her equaly bad croonies winning over progressives.and with the idenity politics of pushing women and idea clinton people go with she didn’t lose 2016 putin stole it from her that could drive another run from her.that could alter race entirely though my istinct is dem officials don’t want her again the clintons don’t listen to anybody.
problem is by voting green party dems may steal votes from greens to pad their numbers.there was suspecion of that in 16 too.
bottom line is i feel no place for progressives in democratic party and total waste of time being invlved in their primarys nomatter how much you may hate trump and gop.incognito, Stockholmer, xynthee and 8 othersSalemcourt, Bearian, Two way street, daleanime, Enthusiast, BillZBubb, NV Wino, djean111 like this
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