Wither Britain?

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    • #239877
      Stockholmer
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      https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/12/17/wither-britain/

      Thursday’s UK General election effectively spells the end of British politics as we know it. All that remains is to catalogue events as what is left of the British state and its constituent institutions are rapidly disassembled and the marrow picked clean from their bones. The cackling, mop-topped ghoul that is Boris Johnson is the ideal figure to preside over the death of the Britain. A return of the madness of King George without the humanizing qualities – Johnson is a leader, much like Donald Trump is to America, who embodies all the negative national stereotypes about the English and none of the good ones.

      Johnson was matched with an ideal opponent in Jeremy Corbyn: a man hated by much of the Party he represented and plagued by baseless allegations of Anti-Semitism from across the spectrum of the British press for the proceeding three years. The feeble attempts to roll some of these accusations back during the election campaign when it became clear that it was Corbyn or Johnson were themselves were too little, too late, particularly as Tory aligned newspapers were more than happy to double down on the claims. Corbyn himself was admittedly weak in effectively challenging the charges against him, and here we are.

      Speaking of weakness, it is no surprise then Jeremy Corbyn is an Arsenal supporter. As a long-suffering follower of Arsenal Football Club myself, I recognize a familiar playbook: promising but not quite convincing results in the early rounds of the tournament followed by utter calamity and capitulation during the big match.

      To be fair to him, Corbyn was in an impossible position: half the Labour constituents supported Brexit the other half didn’t. He couldn’t go big in support of Brexit without risking palace revolt from the young people that supported him and made him leader of the Labour Party. He couldn’t run on a remain platform without ostracizing the North. He couldn’t purge the Blairites because there were just too many of them. Britain is deep down a reactionary society and Labour has been a fragile coalition for a long while.

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    • #239951
      GZeusH
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      It’s been withering for a long time.  And with each Tory victory, it withers some more.

    • #240005
      The Red Menace
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      Thursday’s UK General election effectively spells the end of British politics as we know it.

      Uh… really? REALLY? Maybe to people who had this weird idea that British Politics was somehow “better than” American politics, some sort of example to follow. The people who think this tend to be the same sort of liberals who fetishize the royal family; you know, morons.

      Boris Johnson is just another Saxon shithead ruling a country centered around shitty Saxon politics. He looks like a scarecrow stuffed with mangoes, which is granted a change from the usual bony-and-inbred look of british PM’s, but that’s about it.

      • #240010
        Ohio Barbarian
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        @twilightsporkle Is your sig line from The Coup? Sure looks like it. They’re my favorite rap band.

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      • #240075
        Stockholmer
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        If you think the Saxons run the UK, you truly are staggeringly ignorant of most all British history.

        Pro tip

        Battle of Hastings

        1066 AD

        • #240083
          The Red Menace
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          You know that nine hundred and fifty-three years have passed, right? With nine hundred and fifty three of them seeing England having a Saxon majority, right?

          Changing rulers doesn’t change the populace. And since for the most part, the UK is today ruled by its populace…?

          Hell even those fractions of political power held by the inherited nobility… is still in the hands of Saxons. Granted, they’re Saxons in the sense of “From the state of Saxony” rather than in the sense of “Descended from the Saxon tribes that invaded Britain in 441” but still. Sassenach gonna sassenach.

          • #240091
            Stockholmer
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            go take basic A-Level British history and get back to me

             

            cheers

            • #240263
              The Red Menace
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              I’m figuring there’s a reason the Brits call themselves “Anglo-Saxon” rather than “Anglo-Norman” and I guess I never figured it was because the Normans retained absolute control of Great Britain even after the demise of the Plantagenet and their cadet houses.

              I stand defeated, if you want me to believe the English are crypto-Normans, fine, they’re crypto-Normans. I mean either way it’s a bunch of smelly Germanic sea-devils, so whatever.

              • #240350
                Stockholmer
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                Massive difference between who has wielded the whip hand of power over the flow of 10 centuries versus the genetic stock of punters out in the Midlands or up in the Northeast or over in Wales.

                BoJo, btw, is partially Turkish, Russian-decent Jewish, French, and German (thus the de Pfeffel  part of his name, ie, von Pfeffel originally) and is American-born with American ancestors as well.

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