WSWS: Sanders-Biden task forces and the debacle of Sanders’ “political revolution”

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    • #336173
      Ohio Barbarian
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      With the unveiling of Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden’s “joint task force” proposals for the 2020 Democratic Party platform, Sanders has put the final nail in the coffin of his so-called “political revolution.”

      The joint task force initiative was first announced when Sanders gave his endorsement of Biden in mid-April. The task forces were composed of leading members of the Sanders and Biden campaigns, including two members of the Democratic Socialists of America: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Sara Nelson, president of the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA. The initiative was meant to promote “party unity” ahead of the election.

      The result of the Biden-Sanders collaboration is nothing short of a total repudiation of all the central pillars of Sanders’ campaign amid the greatest social and economic catastrophe in US history.

      Most notably absent in the proposals is Sanders’ hallmark “Medicare-for-all” plan, which has been replaced by calls to “re-open the Affordable Care Act marketplaces” and provide a public option. A reduction in the age of eligibility for Medicare from 65 to 60 is meant to serve as Biden’s “progressive” fig leaf on health care. Just four years ago, Hillary Clinton’s campaign had called for a lowering of Medicare eligibility to age 50.

      Full article hereWarning: It’s harsh, and I agree with it. 

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #336174
      NV Wino
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      I think it was the DNC’s pathetic attempt to unite the progressives and the Democrats.

      “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee
      “Politicians and pro athletes: The only people who still get paid when they lose.” William Rivers Pitt

    • #336228
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      join the crowd: today the waexaminer and nbc/abc are all atwitter about compassionless evil bernie demoting the CA team leader after she had cancer treatment.  she is suing.

      The person who led the California team for Bernie Sanders’s presidential campaign said she was demoted a day after undergoing cancer treatment.

      “Susie Shannon, who served as the campaign’s political director in the state, filed a lawsuit in Los Angeles Superior Court on Friday claiming that “outrageous and compassionless conduct” by the Vermont senator’s team led to her “forced resignation solely because she had the misfortune of being diagnosed with ovarian cancer that required major surgery to treat the disease.””

      evil evil bernie

       

    • #336235
      Ohio Barbarian
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      Please don’t put words in my mouth. I never said, or even thought, he was evil. Weak, craven, and selfish, sure, but not evil.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #336236
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      selfishness is the root of all evil: devotion to the self/self-interest above all other concerns

      just synonyms for the same thing

      my post nowhere mentioned any person called barbarian, so barbarian has no call to accuse words in mouth putting

       

    • #336240
      Ohio Barbarian
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      @coldmountaintrail But there would be no point. Anyway, Bernie can’t be evil in my book, because 1) He had done a lot of good and 2) He’s too weak to be evil.

      Hannibal Lecter was evil. Jack the Ripper was evil. Bernie Sanders is not evil.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #336243
      peacecorps
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      not here.

      Bernie, your career of commitment to progressive causes, your 2016 campaign and your success at proving the popularity of progressive policies mean nothing if you make a mistake or two.

      We want someone who will do the good things you have done … and will not do ANYTHING that we disagree with. There must be someone like that – somewhere.

      They are called 'human' rights not "if politicians do not feel threatened" rights. Many politicians see national sovereignty/security as more important because they protect their power and wealth. Human rights often do just the opposite.

      National issues (slavery/racism, income inequality, pandemics and pathetic health care, weak unions) are not solved with more states' rights. Global problems (climate change, migration, trade, war, pandemics) are not resolved with more national sovereignty.

    • #336258
      Ohio Barbarian
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      @peacecorps I don’t “fall in love” with political leaders like so many people, especially liberals and some Republicans, do. I don’t give a shit about personalities. The fact is that Bernie betrayed his own movement when he abjectly capitulated like he did to Obama and Biden, getting absolutely nothing in return, and then he betrayed the entire working class by voting for the CARES Act.

      That’s not demonstrating a “commitment to progressive causes.” That’s just a commitment to the Democratic Party, which has been disastrous for progressives for decades now.

      Now he says Joe Biden would be as progressive as anyone since FDR if only he implements the very few tiny concessions he agreed to consider. Now Bernie is just flat-out lying to us, just so none of the power elite will call him a Ralph Nader. That’s weak and craven. That’s not leadership, that’s ass-kissing.

      I don’t expect politicians to be perfect, and unlike DUers I don’t make excuses for the ones I generally support when they do something fundamentally opposed to my class interests. Also unlike them, I admit I have class interests.

      Bernie didn’t just make a “mistake or two.” He gave away all of the political power he did have to the enemies of everything he says he believes in, and that’s unforgivable, no matter what he did before.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #336285
      3fingerbrown
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      You have nothing to apologize for @ohiobarbarian. Bernie did betray his backers by sucking up to the worst bastard the democrats could have foisted on the public. If people, including on these pages, can’t deal with this reality, it’s on them. Looks lie Jimmy Dore was correct all along.

      All governments lie to their citizen's, but only Americans believe theirs.

    • #336293
      ronRonnie1
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      Glad his time in the sun is OVER.  Thank you, next.

    • #336308
      Haikugal
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      Bernie didn’t just make a “mistake or two.” He gave away all of the political power he did have to the enemies of everything he says he believes in, and that’s unforgivable, no matter what he did before.

      I concur with your assessment OB, a very disappointing end to our movement…or is it?

      The DNC “big tent” excludes Nina Turner but includes John Kasich.

    • #336312
      Ohio Barbarian
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      @haikugal Bernie Sanders made what our parents or grandparents called “common sense government” thinkable again. He did widen the Overton Window’s left edge back out to include the vision of FDR and LBJ, simply by getting out there and talking about it.

      No matter what anyone(obviously not you) thinks, criticizing, no matter how harshly, a politician to fail to wield power when he holds it in his hands is not the same thing as saying his entire career was totally fraudulent or worthless. Even the WSWS admits, elsewhere and grudgingly, that Sanders gave voice to working class needs and desires. He actually used the phrase “working class,” which Obama never did.

      Bernie can no longer be the leader of our movement because he abandoned us. We have to find our own way to political power now, and I for one think Sanders has done us an invaluable service not only for what he stood for until four months ago, but by graphically illustrating the Democratic Party is a dead end for both progressive ideas and politicians.

      I don’t know what the best way for us is, but I know a dead end when I see it and that’s all the Democrats offer us.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #336315
      Haikugal
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      Absofuckinglutely OB…we are the change we want to see and Bernie did good work for many years. He is no longer relevant and we may never know the ‘why’ of it but the revolution continues.

      The DNC “big tent” excludes Nina Turner but includes John Kasich.

    • #336316
      David the Gnome
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      We are saving America by rescuing the wealthy!  Do you want to have medicare for all?  Wouldn’t that make the rich suffer?  No, clearly Bernie saw the light and decided to support Joe Biden, I mean – who wouldnt?  The man just oozes, uh, integrity, honor, compassion, a love of his fellow human beings and the common good.  You can see by all of the great works he has done for society, for progress, for peace – the efforts to end world hunger, cure cancer.  Why don’t people get it?  I just don’t understand.  Bernie heroically capitulated to Biden because he came to understand the most American thing about American politics – the welfare of the wealthy!

      No?  He wanted to stay on Senate committees?  He wanted to have a part in forming the new uh… task force…?  That, uhm, heroically completely ignored all of his major campaign issues?  No – he supported Biden because Biden has declared war on poverty and vowed to support a UBI!  Err, well, no.

      So, pardon me if I am a cynic, but the only choice that would have been worse than Biden is Hillary Clinton.  Well, or Kissinger, or something, maybe.

    • #336452
      carrotguy
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      i never got over bernie’s answer during a town hall (IIRC) when stating “i don’t know how we’ll pay for it” when asked about  M4A.   as much as i love bernie, mistakes like that give the distinct impression he was playing a “face” to the DNC’s “heel” in the US political kayfabe.

      and there were several other mistakes that were really questionable

    • #336482
      Ohio Barbarian
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      @carrotguy At least Howie Hawkins of the Greens said he’d pay for it in part by cutting the defense budget in half and ending the wars. No Democrat ever says that; at least, I don’t remember any of them making that incredibly reasonable proposal this year.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

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