Your Man in the Public Gallery: Assange Hearing Day 10

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    • #359157
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      The gloves were off on Tuesday as the US Government explicitly argued that all journalists are liable to prosecution under the Espionage Act (1917) for publishing classified information, citing the Rosen case. Counsel for the US government also argued that the famous Pentagon Papers supreme court judgement on the New York Times only referred to pre-publication injunction and specifically did not preclude prosecution under the Espionage Act. The US Government even surmised in court that such an Espionage Act prosecution of the New York Times may have been successful.

      It is hard for me to convey to a British audience what an assault this represents by the Trump administration on Americans’ self-image of their own political culture. The First Amendment is celebrated across the political divide and the New York Times judgement is viewed as a pillar of freedom. So much so that Hollywood’s main superstars are still making blockbusters about it, in which the heroes are the journalists rather than the actual whistleblower, Dan Ellsberg (whom I am proud to know).

      The US government is now saying, completely explicitly, in court, those reporters could and should have gone to jail and that is how we will act in future. The Washington Post, the New York Times, and all the “great liberal media” of the USA are not in court to hear it and do not report it, because of their active complicity in the “othering” of Julian Assange as something sub-human whose fate can be ignored. Are they really so stupid as not to understand that they are next…?

      By general consent, those first evidence days had gone badly for the prosecution. There was then a timeout for (ahem) suspected Covid among the prosecution team. The approach has now changed and on Tuesday a radically more aggressive approach was adopted by the prosecution asserting the right to prosecute all journalists and all media who publish classified information under the Espionage Act (1917).  The purpose of the earlier approach was plainly to reduce media support for Assange by differentiating him from other journalists. It had become obvious such an approach ran a real risk of failure…

      https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/09/your-man-in-the-public-gallery-assange-hearing-day-10/

       

      **From the article:  it is a Trump admin priority to prosecute Assange, and the new approach using the espionage act is theirs.

      vs. Obama, who commuted Manning’s 60-year sentence.  vs. the Trump justice department, who jailed Manning from March 2019 to March 2020 for contempt when she refused to testify against Assange.

      Who’s got Trump’s ear on this one?

       

       

       

       

    • #359286
      sonofspy777
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      MAY HE BE DISBARRED REAL SOON.

      “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
      ~Samuel Clemens

    • #359309
      PolecatHollerer
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      If you give a man enough rope, it will be six inches too short. This is not the nature of rope- it is the nature of man.

    • #359315
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      Trump admin going all out to get assange; obama admin commuted chelsea manning; trump admin jailed him another year for refusing to squeal on assange.  There used to be a big pro-assange cotingent here, where did it go?

      Glad I found craig murray at the trial; he says the wire services are there too though the stuff they report doesn’t often get published.  but they’re there.

    • #359335
      MizzGrizz
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      ..@coldmountaintrail,namely me.

      I’m as furious as can be with the media not even bothering to report about Assange at all.More proof that they are absolutely worthless.

    • #359340
      doh1304
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      but the prosecution is essentially defying the Supreme Court (the Pentagon Papers decision, which is exactly what the Assange case is based on) If he is deported he will be tried in the US, but his prosecution will be in so many words contrary to the SC and he must be acquitted. If not the appeals will go all the way to the present SC, which will almost certainly overturn itself. Theory: the plan is actually to void the 1st amendment.

      • #359341
        Cold Mountain Trail
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        Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

         

        Not the entire first, just the freedom of the press apparently.  They seem to be saying, you are still free to publish whatever you want, but after it’s published we’re free to send you to jail or execute you.  No conspiracy theory, that’s how I read the article anyway.


        @doh1304

    • #359424
      doh1304
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      Answer: It depends. a, If you are a journalist and your editor just suppresses the story and doesn’t report you you won’t be arrested. Either way b, If Trump is reelected you’ll probably be arrested first. Or c, If Biden wins it’ll probably be me. “Little people” have fewer protectors and so it’s easier to make examples of us. After all. it’s us they really want to either control or destroy.

       

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