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Off to the dispensary this AM
elias39 (2445 posts)February 14, 2017 at 6:22 am
Off to the dispensary this AM
to get some cannabis salve for external application. I have nasty joint pain in my hands and elbows. And knees. It will be interesting to see if the salve works. They sell trans-dermal patches, too, but my pain is too widespread to put a patch on it. This should be interesting. Ben Gay and stuff like that really doesn’t do much for me. I hope the salve does.
Will report back on cost and efficacy.Enthusiast, NJOCK, Haikugal and 6 othersElfinWilde, jwirr, Doremus Jessup, Silver Witch, Jan Boehmermann, KarenS like this“Name, no, nothing is nameable, tell, no, nothing can be told, what then, I don't know, I shouldn't have begun.” ― Samuel Beckett, Stories and Texts for Nothing
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Silver Witch (3679 posts) (Reply to original post) February 14, 2017 at 6:33 am
1. Try the…
Ratie Blue rubbing oil. I use it for my wrist which I broke in July does not make you high at all but stops the pain!!! At my store it was 20 for the small bottle. Lasted me weeks. Got the 2 oz for 40 cause they were having a sale.
I use it at night so I can sleep pain free. My sister uses some lemon drop candies that are for pain only. She stopped taking her hydrcodene and she says they don’t make you high.
Now I know why big Pharma likes it to be illegal!!You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom. You can only be free if I am free. ~ Clarence Darrow
elias39 (2445 posts) (Reply to Silver Witch - post #1) February 14, 2017 at 2:35 pm
2. I'll look for it. Sounds promising.“Name, no, nothing is nameable, tell, no, nothing can be told, what then, I don't know, I shouldn't have begun.” ― Samuel Beckett, Stories and Texts for Nothing
PADemD (779 posts) (Reply to Silver Witch - post #1) February 14, 2017 at 3:12 pm
3. Does the oil alleviate joint swelling, too?
Yesterday, my arthritic finger was so painful, it woke me up.
Silver Witch (3679 posts) (Reply to PADemD - post #3) February 14, 2017 at 5:52 pm
5. I am not sure about that PADemD.
I only know it stops the pain and swelling is part of the pain. My sister is trying acupuncture for inflammation. I willlet you know if it works.You can only protect your liberties in this world by protecting the other man's freedom. You can only be free if I am free. ~ Clarence Darrow
hopemountain (1164 posts) (Reply to PADemD - post #3) February 14, 2017 at 6:11 pm
7. every now and then i get those hard lumps
around a joint – very painful. the last one was at that first thumb joint. even the tip of my thumb was becoming numb from the inflammation and loss of circulation. it finally stopped being so painful after 4 nights of rubbing the oil around the swollen joint. it hurt to do so – but i wanted to break up the crystals that had accumulated there (similar to gout). at first only the pain was lessened – but gradually, the swelling did go down. my thumb is fine now – hardly any discernible numbness and i can once again operate a manual can opener.
my oil was used but i have used other dispensary oils and they work, too."economic and environmental justice is spiritual work." ~ tom b. k. goldtooth .... "Upon suffering beyond suffering: the Red Nation shall rise again and it shall be a blessing for a sick world; a world filled with broken promises, selfishness and separations; a world longing for light again. I see a time of Seven Generations when all the colors of mankind will gather under the Sacred Tree of Life and the whole Earth will become one circle again. In that day, there will be those among the Lakota who will carry knowledge and understanding of unity among all living things, and the young white ones will come to those of my people and ask for this wisdom. I salute the light within your eyes where the whole Universe dwells. For when you are at that center within you and I am that place within me, we shall be as one." ~ Crazy Horse ~ Oglala Lakota (circa 1840-1877). His words of prophecy to Sitting Bull while sharing a sacred pipe a few short days before his death.
hopemountain (1164 posts) (Reply to original post) February 14, 2017 at 4:36 pm
4. i make my own rubbing/massage cannabis oil –
it is a more natural way of making. no chemicals or heat processing. but, it does take a couple of months and it is not for ingestion.
this is an indigenous method – for rubbing and massaging just about anywhere there is pain. this oil also works when massaged or rubbed around but not upon areas of pain which are either bruised or too painful for touch. do not use on open wounds or incisions or internally. if the skin is sensitive to the oil/cannabis, instead, rub/massage the oil into the souls of the feet or inside the wrist – or around the outside of the pain area.
if applying to joints or a large area, cover with cotton cloth or t-shirt – or socks. yes, it smells – but when i am in pain, i don’t care. for me, personally, it works within a half hour. also, the longer i use this treatment or remedy over time, the less it is required later on down the road.
-cannabis rubbing or massage oil remedy for pain- (not recommended for ingestion)
1 cup cannabis plant material (leaves, a few buds, some stems) – mash it all into a jar. some people put it through a grinder. put all of it into a 16 oz glass jar. fill the jar with organic olive or organic avocado oil.cover tightly.
set in dark covered cabinet or box for at least 2 full moons. during this time, shake jar or turn and set upside down a couple of times per week. do not open the jar during this time.
after setting time, empty contents into a cheese cloth lined sieve (3-4 layers) set over a 4 cup pyrex measuring bowl. let the oil naturally seep out for at least a couple of days.
pour oil into smaller glass jars and cover with dropper caps. refrigerate or freeze. you should have enough for a year.
one can also use a gin or vodka or mescal to soak the cannabis material for the rubbing or massage remedy. same couple of months setting. NOT recommended for ingestion of either the oil or alcohol remedy because the cannabis material may not be clean enough and there is no way to determine dosage.
(some people only use leaves and buds. but i add a bit of the stem because that is how my late husband’s grandma used to make her remedy. i try to remain true to the thousands of year old traditional methods.)
Silver Witch (3679 posts) (Reply to hopemountain - post #4) February 14, 2017 at 5:55 pm
6. Wow. Thanks Hopemountain.
I am going to give this a go. I have made my own tinctures in years past. Perhaps now it the time for my own oil.
Jan Boehmermann (2493 posts) (Reply to original post) February 16, 2017 at 1:55 pm
8. Does the cannabis salve work?
I am wondering how a cannabis salve can work (applied topically).
I’ve never tried it. So I’m eager to hear your report. Yes/No?!!
elias39 (2445 posts) (Reply to Jan Boehmermann - post #8) February 16, 2017 at 7:42 pm
10. I haven't had a good 'test pain site' you might say.
I’ve spent the last week in a dawn to dusk snow and ice removal drill. I hurt everywhere and there simply isn’t enough salve. What I’m hoping(?) for is a neck spasm or a tendinitis. Something I can address objectively.
I DID work a small amount into my hands – like I was moisturizing – hoping it would help with my fingers and wrists. Didn’t seem to be effective. The stuff is hard to work with as well. It comes in a small round tin. 2OZ tin, $55. It’s HARD in the tin. Made in a base of beeswax and – ach – already forgot. I have to kind of gouge out sliver and warm it in my hands to spread.
So, essentially, I’m not yet impressed but it’s early.
(BTW I had the same concerns about absorbability or osmosis. I was told it wasn’t the best delivery method – that patches were more effective – but that anecdotes were positive.)
NJOCK (228 posts) (Reply to original post) February 16, 2017 at 3:15 pm
9. Sending some good vibes out to you
I hope it works and I am eager to hear the results too. Best wishes!
I would love to go legally pick up some cannabis but my govenor (Cuomo) recently called it a gateway drug!!!! Seriously. He outright lied.
Tell me again how I live in a liberal state?
Enthusiast (6047 posts) (Reply to NJOCK - post #9) February 17, 2017 at 8:48 am
11. I see Cuomo as a corporate Democrat.
His loyalty is to the pharmaceutical industry."The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide." Frank Church