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[Haikugal]

Herbalists, I have a question.

I’m so glad that there are others here who enjoy learning about using plants for health. I went on a ramble yesterday to see how things are growing this year and wow, we have quite the crop of little garter snakes! I thought the birds would have hunted them all out but nope, so there is hope. Still no turtles, just a huge snapper shell that must have been exposed for a couple of years. Very big snapper.

Anyway…I have a lot of beautiful opium lettuce that I want to make medicine from. Has anyone here had experience with doing this?

Thanks in advance.

 

[elias39]

I can't help

sorry @haikugal

[Haikugal]

Reply To: Herbalists, I have a question.

Thanks anyway @Elias39 Your response is appreciated.

[GZeusH]

Lettuce? Medicinal?

I usually think of lettuce as food, with little in the way of medicinal value.  Apparently, Plants for a Future has a higher opinion of it.  Here is a link to their entry for prickly lettuce:  https://pfaf.org/user/Plant.aspx?LatinName=Lactuca+serriola

What is it you want to do with your lettuce?

Corporate America consists of totalitarian entities laser-focused on short-term greed.

If you just got finessed into calling the medicine that won the 2015 Nobel Prize for its role in treating human disease ‘horse de-wormer’ then you need to sit the next couple of plays out.

[Haikugal]

Reply To: Herbalists, I have a question.

I need something to help with pain from time to time. I can’t take anything but acetaminophen due to an illness and Tylenol doesn’t touch my pain sometimes. Also it helps with sleep. I’m thinking of trying out a tea (drying the Lactuca virosa) or making it into tincture or resin to use in alcohol. Some people smoke it but I don’t smoke anymore, at all. I use cannabis for sleep aide and pain relief and I am amazed at the crop of lettuce I have out there and it is so fresh and appealing. Just beautiful.

on edit: I should add that in PA if you have a medical marijuana card you can’t get a pain medication prescription. One or the other…authoritarian bullshit.

 

 

[Haikugal]

Reply To: Herbalists, I have a question.

@gzeush I think there are a couple of varieties. It’s al over the web but I thought maybe someone here has actually used it or harvested and made something from it. Look what’s on eBay.. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=opium+lettuce&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-34002-13078-0&mkcid=2&keyword=opium+lettuce&crlp=_1-1300-0-1-3&MT_ID=&geo_id=&rlsatarget=kwd-77172105486779%3Aloc-190&adpos=&device=c&mktype=&loc=91814&poi=&abcId=&cmpgn=329851882&sitelnk=&adgroupid=1234751710262361&network=s&matchtype=e&msclkid=36316e67f54715a680e030b44860fd11&ul_noapp=true

Next question is if anyone has used Kratom.

[Babel 17]

Yes, I have

@haikugal

If you like I’ll PM you the names of two good forums for Kratom users, and one Facebook group as well.

Avoid the Kratom extracts unless you have major pain and the regular Kratom is too hard to assimilate in the amounts needed. Some people do get addicted to the extracts.

If you have Netflix, here’s a documentary.

https://www.netflix.com/title/81009815

Joe Rogan has done some shows where he talked about Kratom.

 

[Haikugal]

Reply To: Herbalists, I have a question.

Thanks for hooking me up with the documentary and I will send you an IM for the rest. Woohoo…this is great.

[Babel 17]

Incarvillea Sinensis is surprisingly good for a lot of kinds of pain

Funny enough the best deal on it that I know of comes from an online retailer of Kratom. They sell several kinds of herbs. I use that and their Skullcap, as well as their Kratom.

Full disclosure, they once sent me a free bag of Kratom to review. 🙂

[Haikugal]

Reply To: Herbalists, I have a question.

@babel17

• This is what comes up with a search for Incarvillea Sinensis. I’m a little confused…thanks!

[Babel 17]

It's used in TCM

@haikugal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarvillea_sinensis

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26527075/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10514316/

The plant has been used in traditional Chinese medicine as an analgesic and as a treatment for rheumatism. Incarvillateine isolated from Incarvillea sinensis has demonstrated significant analgesic activity when compared to the opiate alkaloid morphine.

This additional data is important.

… the effects of incarvillateine on chronic pain were related to the adenosine system, but not opioid system. These results indicate that incarvillateine is a novel analgesic compound that is effective against inflammatory and neuropathic pain, and that its effects are associated with activation of the adenosine system.

 

 

[Haikugal]

Reply To: Herbalists, I have a question.

OK, thanks!!

 

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