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Who's on Your Most Overrated Artists List?

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    • #2836
      Pam2
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      I was trying to think of a topic we hadn’t done yet. Here are some artists I never got all the hype about. (of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame types anyway. )

      Grateful Dead, Bruce Springsteen, Rush, Eric Clapton, Nirvana.

      Add your own.

      (oops- Forgot the Eagles)

    • #2847
      Satan
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      Never got it, probably never will.

      Also any of the so-called “Pink Floyd” albums after Roger Waters left the band. Gilmour (not even an original band member, for Hell’s sake!) is a great guitar player, but he really wasn’t enough of a songwriter to carry the band on his own.

      Steely Dan… geezus, don’t even get a Devil started on how much they don’t impress me. For one thing, two guys is NOT a band. And now there’s only one of them, which makes it even more ridiculous. (and no, Walter Becker does NOT have an air conditioner!)

      Also, any band calling themselves “Lynyrd Skynyrd” after the 1977 plane crash isn’t even worth the time it took me to type this sentence. The real Skynyrd still exists… but only here in Hell. (and they DO have air conditioners!)

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    • #2849
      Joe Shlabotnik
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      Clapton was great for a few years but fell of a cliff by the mid 70’s.  Off the top of my head I’d add Fleetwood Mac, Jefferson Airplane, post Beatles-Paul McCartney, Elton John, Steely Dan.

      …Ok I’ve probably offended half of JPR now.

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    • #2866
      N2Doc
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      So I’ll bite- Overrated – U2, Beyonce, Post- David Lee Roth Van Halen, Coldplay, All the crap that passes for country music nowadays, anything auto-tuned

      • #2976
        HassleCat
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        I guess her genre is “popular hip-hop song and dance” or something like that. Whatever it is, she is the best at it. Her production is always perfect, and her performances right on the money. I usually change channels when I see her on the TV, because I loathe commercial music made as a consumer product, but there is nobody better at creating that particular consumer product.

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      HassleCat
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    • #2875
      Punxsutawney
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      I’m shocked that nobody has brought up that pedophiles name here. 

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      • #2878
        Ohio Barbarian
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        Other than that,

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        • #2914
          Punxsutawney
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          Loved the song when I was older. …err younger!

           

          In America, “Liberty” means “Free to Die in Service of Capital” - Amfortas the hippie.

          Most of today’s elites have the moral and social reasoning capacities of spoiled toddlers.

          “People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage...but the privileged also feel that their privileges, however egregious they may seem to others, are a solemn, basic, God-right. The sensitivity of the poor to injustice is a trivial thing c

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          Jan Boehmerman
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    • #2895
      D503
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      Add to that STYX the most annoying band since….

      WHITE LIGHTENING neither would get off the stage no matter

      how many ‘boos’ they got.

      Add Eagles to the list as well as John Fogerty.

      All rap seems to be a copy of ‘The Last Poets’  check them out.

      And does ‘Pop’ music count as rock? I think not.

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    • #2945
      HassleCat
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      The acts you mention could be considered overrated, except their followers would maintain they never got enough favorable notice. The perfect example is the Grateful Dead. Their followers go well beyond hype in describing their live performances, most of which were fairly lackluster, and repeat the catchphrase, “There’s nothing like a good old Grateful Dead concert.” They bemoan the fact that the Dead never got huge mainstream press and traditional Rockstar status because their record sales were not at the top.

       

    • #2946
      HassleCat
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      Other people consider artists overrated as a matter of personal taste. Guitarists, probably most guitarists, fall into this category. Typically, guitarist worshippers have a commandment that says, “Jimmy Page is God, and thou shalt not even think of any other gods!” Probably every major guitarist has a following that feels this way, and they are all over the interwebs, commenting that other guitarists are overrated, complaining when their guy is not #1 on the various lists, etc. My general take on this is that most guitarists are overrated in the sense that their fans and music journalists try to elevate one of them above the others. Jimi Hendrix is probably the prime example, since he almost always tops any greatest-of-all time list. He is overrated, not because his talents are inferior to the others, but because he is worshipped as a supernatural being.

    • #2948
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      Same goes for vocalists, with Stevie Nicks being my favorite example. I like her a lot, but her voice and technical ability may not be the best. Her fame is well deserved, but some of the fawning and gushing from music journalists is just too much.

       

    • #2950
      HassleCat
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      My overrated artists list would consist of performers who are highly derivative, formulaic, and unimaginative, but sell lots of records and get tons of favorable press. I see The Eagles make your list, and I would agree, except I like them a lot. They are often criticized for taking no musical chances, sticking to a formula, and making every live song sound just like the studio version. That’s all true, but they’re so damned good at it they’re in a category by themselves. The truly overrated acts are those who are just ordinary, but sell billions of records, are regarded as celestial beings, and appear every week on the cover of People Magazine. Mariah Carey and Celine Dion are two examples. I suppose every Boy Group ever formed, and artists like Justin Bieber qualify, too. Anyway, this is an endless topic, and everybody will have different opinions. Have fun with this!

    • #2982
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      ..and so are boy bands etc. I was thinking more of people that are in the rock god pantheon for some but never did much for me. Ted was never fawned over by rock critics like Bruce for example.

       

    • #2985
      Homer Ramone
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      I give up for now

      • #2990
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        I guess it started when one of the Rolling Stone writers said, “I have seen the future of rock & roll, and its name is Bruce Springsteen.” I think that was Griel Marcus, but I could be wrong. How could anybody live up to that? Unfortunately, we have a tendency to hop on such bandwagons and ride them until they have long since broken down. Witness Bob Dylan’s album of Sinatra songs receiving worshipful reviews from some critics. (On edit: looked up the Springsteen remark and it was Jon Landau in 1974.)

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      enough to make a living in a classic rock bar band, I’m more inclined to put weight behind their professional opinion about another artist’s music.

      Guitarists invariably rate Clapton as one of the top guitarists of all time in readers polls in guitar magazines.

      Drummers invariably rate Neil Pert of Rush as one of the greatest drummers of all time in reader’s polls in drummer magazines.

      The Eagles have the number one and number three best selling albums of all time. I would have crawled across a field of broken glass and barbed wire to play in a rock band that could sing like that.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Thread:_The_Songs_of_the_Eagles

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      • #3476
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        ..about the feeling and the fun. That’s the primary thing for me since I am just a fan and not a musician. “Chops” alone doesn’t do it for me. I’d rather hear a great song with a short guitar solo than endless noodling in a boring song.

         

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      The only reason Clapton “fell off a cliff” as you put it, was because he got addicted to heroin!

      You might have heard of it, it’s still killing people today…Clapton had to learn to play guitar all

      over again.  Shi t nearly killed him.

       

      The shi t did kill one of my heroes. Paul Kossoff, Lead guitar of Free, h e double hockey sticks

      Clapton asked him how he got his amazing vibrato.

      The Eagles played boring predictable bar band country rock then a real musician joined them
      None other than the the Clown Prince of rock and roll~ Joe Walsh playing thru a Leslie (rotating speaker) and the best rocking slide player in the country.  Want to know what Joe can do by himself? Listen to a song composed completely of ‘hooks’…

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      • #6086
        Pam2
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        That was Mr. Shlabotnik. I just said Clapton didn’t do much for me. I’ve got nothing against Joe Walsh. I forgot he joined the Eagles to be honest.

         

         

         

      • #11367
        Joe Shlabotnik
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        Hey sonofspy777, just saw your reply 3 weeks late, lol.

        What you say is true, both about Clapton and, as we all know many of his generational contemporaries. Don’t get me wrong, I love listening to good Clapton, it’s the reason I picked up a guitar when I was 15 years old. But he doesn’t need a ‘participation ribbon’ for rehabing himself, and worse the record/radio industry never missed a beat churning out his less than stellar stuff until they finally gave up in the early 80’s.
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    • #6042
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      if your ear likes the music, than it is good music.

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