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      It’ll work, too. There are too many Democratic cultists in this city.

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      Omar should introduce an Article of Impeachment right now, and Sanders should endorse it. Anything less than that is bullshit and just more celebrity politician posturing.

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      No mention of actually spending some money to house these people. How are Canadians any better than say, Los Angeles, in that regard?

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      This Congress, and this President, will do nothing unless some corporate donor is going to make a mint off of it or if they are literally in fear for their lives from an outraged populace.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Look at the Frito-Lay strike in Topeka. A union approved of the suicide shifts in the previous contract. WTF? I speak as a union member. If our next contract is as shitty as the last one, I will exercise my rights under Citizens United and stop paying union dues. Why should I, when they don’t deliver much of anything, and then donate my dues to people like Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden?

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      There are so many people who are unreachable by phone, be it cellphone or land line, simply because most people won’t answer a call from a strange number anymore. And even if it’s accurate, our government has lied to so many so often that it is apparent all elected officials should be required to recite the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf in full.

      I really can’t blame people for not believing them anymore, or the corporate media, either.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Snow Guardian

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      If Republican governors can get more people vaccinated by promoting vaccines, that’s a good thing.

      Mike DeWine said much the same thing, though to his credit he was always in favor of vaccinations. It seems there will be no lockdowns in Ohio, and that’s fine by me.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #436601
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      The author says there is a global vaccine shortage, which is a bald-faced lie for her patrons in the oligarchy(American University is a center of the establishment). There is no shortage, but there is a distribution problem because pharmaceutical corporations refuse to provide it unless they make mega-profits off of it.

      IOW, the Third World vaccine shortage is as much of a shortage as food in Ireland during the Potato Famine was–all the grain was being sold to England and other countries, and the oligarchs of the time refused to provide for the Irish people. The famine was completely avoidable.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #436599
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      Prove me wrong.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #436595
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      Pepsico, the parent corporation of Frito-Lay, made record profits by selling chips to Amazon to delivery to all of those homebodies out there last year. Whenever I talk to liberal friends about how they are supporting atrocious practices by buying from Amazon nearly every damned day, they’ll just say, “I know, but I’m lazy,” or “But it’s convenient! I can’t give up Amazon! How will I watch my favorite movies?!”

      I’ve lived without Amazon for years, but I do like Fritos chili cheese chips. Oh well. Back to locally made tostadas. No problemo.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      After he admitted to lying about the need for masks back in February or March of last year, he should have lost all credibility on the subject. Seems to me the Democrats did their best to politicize the issue, coming down firmly on Fauci’s side regardless of his record, which is really kind of typical of them, come to think of it.

      As for Paul, the only thing he’s good on is anti-imperialist foreign policy. I give him credit for that, and that alone.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Now I’ll have to buy the book. Or wait for it to come out in the public library.

      I’m sure every word of it is true. Dennis is a good guy. He’s running for Mayor of Cleveland again, did you know that? Probably why he wrote the book.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Most Americans don’t trust any of them, for good reason. That’s why shows like Breaking Points are breaking records on YouTube. Maybe if National Public Radio had not become National Petroleum(or Propaganda, take your pick) Radio this wouldn’t have happened. It’s on them.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      He’s always advocated for cutting Social Security, and nothing has fundamentally changed. If he gets re-elected, look for this in 2025.

       

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      D-Fascist, R-Fascist, it does not matter. All believe in the continuing merger of state and corporate power. Input from you, me, or anyone else is not welcome. Our only duty is to obey or die and get out of the way as far as they are concerned.

      And yet Bernie Sanders says Biden is potentially the most progressive president since FDR. And people wonder why I’m cynical.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #436390
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      More of a victory for the working class than those and LBJ’s other, never-mentioned program of extending electricity and indoor plumbing to nearly every American in the 1960s? More of a victory for the health of the working class than the Clean Air and Water Acts of 1970, signed into law by Richard Nixon?

      What rot. Bernie knows better, and he’s lying through his teeth. Again.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      The neighbors also have a right to put up with signs like MY NEIGHBOR IS A CRETIN.

      I remember when my employer told me back in 2008 that I had to take the Obama bumper sticker off of my car, and I just fished out my ACLU membership card and showed it to him. Then I told him to please fire me for that and I would retire off of the punitive damages(it was a local government agency, not Cuyahoga County). I got total capitulation.

      My question is always, If you deny this one person the right to free political expression, where does it stop? The First Amendment is there for a reason.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Now it’s up to Castillo.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #435814
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      Then I’ll celebrate.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Ayup. It do. She’s blindly supporting Biden and the calls for regime change in Cuba. That’s imperialism, not socialism.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      That is the entire cause of the destruction of the Amazon rain forest.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      I don’t believe the universe is just a product of random chance. I also know I can’t prove that–it’s a matter of faith. In this case, like Mr. Spock I have faith that the universe, or multiverse maybe, will unfold in the way in which it was intended.

      Intended by what? I don’t know. I feel there’s something out there, something that cares and loves, and have had some experiences which encourage that belief, but I can’t prove it to anyone and I never try. Personally, I think it’s just as arrogant to presume that there is no spiritual “stuff,” for the lack of a better word, as it is to presume that The Truth is all found in one collection of Bronze Age or medieval tales or whatnot.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      CRT is just a liberal establishment propaganda ploy, and it is working exactly as intended. The right wing attacks on it are even more absurd than CRT itself, as expected. Now liberals can show off how smart they are by shooting down the clay pigeons the Republicans throw up in opposition to CRT, and label all who don’t accept it as the Gospel Truth as racists or deniers of objective reality.

      Meanwhile, nothing that will actually improve the standard of living for the oppressed minorities liberals claim to champion will ever happen, and they will continue to blame everyone but themselves for that.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      When this country needs at least triple that? When there’s no punishment for any Democrat who opposes it and stops budget reconciliation.

      This is little better than Obama’s “baby steps,” and woefully incapable of stemming the ongoing transformation of America into a neofeudal, rentier society. Of course, all of the so-called progressives being so ecstatic here wouldn’t even force a vote on Medicare for All, and went along with the warmongering imperial budget, so that’s no surprise.

      What a fucking farce.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      There is no democracy to save; it is already dead. Wake up and smell the coffee, Jacobin Magazine.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Not that my stepdaughter feels much sympathy for her. This person, who used abortion as a birth control method for a few years–which I personally find repugnant–because she didn’t WANT to take birth control refused to get the vaccine because she’d heard that the vaccine would make her sterile.

      No shit. And now she’s in the fucking hospital because of respiratory complications due to Covid.

      Talk about a Darwin Award candidate.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Especially anywhere in the Western Hemisphere. History speaks for itself on this one.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      I can’t find the ad on YouTube. Just saw it tonight on Jeopardy! Again, excellent ad placement.

      Starts off with Nina Turner saying she approves of the message, so this is from her, not a PAC. It goes full nuclear; Jimmy Dore and Jordan Chariton will LOVE this one. The strong male voice intones all of the corrupt things Brown has done on County Council, like giving her boyfriend’s company a county contract, voting to give herself a $4000 a year raise for her part-time County Council job, and accepting oodles of money from corporations.

      The dude then goes on to say that the working class in this congressional district need someone who will work for them, not the corporations and outside interests, and not just another typical politician who won’t deliver. In this case, a corrupt, inexperienced politician. They even had some pictures of Brown looking like she was throwing a tantrum like the privileged girl everybody hates.

      I’m not doing it justice; it was great. All hard-hitting, verifiable facts aimed right at Shontel Brown to show she’s just another corrupt, grifting sellout.

      My wife said, “Nina went all Black on her.” She’s right. She did. This will play very well here.

      Oh, Nina’s getting endorsements from lots of local Black pastors now. I cannot overstate how important that is here.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210716-hundreds-missing-in-germany-after-massive-floods-leave-scores-dead

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      They are good words, but still only words. Will AOC actually do anything about this, like voting against everything Biden proposes until he lifts the embargo against Cuba, which he can do at the stroke of a pen?

      Her track record suggests she will just posture but do nothing.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      His video is much better, but when he corrected himself at the end, first saying that corporate interests do not want to see a fighter for the working class in Congress, and then changing that to another fighter for the working class, he was in error.

      There is no one fighting for the working class in this Congress right now. Not one person. Of course, Doel still supports the Fraud Squad and I don’t. OTOH, I will vote for Nina Turner because I am a constituent of the Ohio 11th, and he is not.

      And the only recent polls available are Brown’s internal numbers and a Republican poll. I cannot help but be skeptical of both of them. It will all come down to who shows up at the polls. I do hope there’s no election fraud, but one never knows these days.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      The few things I don’t like about Jordan Chariton are on display. He got Shontel Brown’s title wrong. She is not the chair of the Cuyahoga City Council. There is no such thing. She is a member of the Cuyahoga County Council, not the chair, and is chairwoman of the Cuyahoga County Democratic Party. Get your facts straight or you look like an idiot to anyone living here.

      He also didn’t do his research on the campaign itself. Nina Turner’s campaign is most definitely not taking all of these lies and smears lying down. They have all sorts of ads debunking them all, and they are every bit as numerous on the media markets of this district as those supporting Shontel Brown.

      They haven’t come out and attacked Joe Biden or Hillary or Clyburn, but they have most definitely attacked Shontel Brown herself. She is, after all, the one running against Turner, not any of those other people. They’ve hit her on her inexperience, which really is a big factor, and have countered all the lies in the AIPAC-affiliated ads that are now being broadcast.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      And Norman Solomon is still full of shit. Has been for years. LOTE establishment columnist all the way.

      There is no leftward movement by Joe Biden. His agenda is not leftist in any way, shape, or form, because he is a right-wing Reagan Democrat. The fact that some consider it “progressive” just makes that word utterly meaningless. Whenever Bernie says Biden is progressive in any way, he is lying through his teeth. Despicable.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Things are looking up.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Excellent summation of why I have no respect for liberalism in America today. Thank you.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      I don’t understand the surprise expressed by so many progressives at her behavior once she got elected to the Senate. Her campaign coffers were full of corporate cash.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      They had these allegedly official Kremlin documents analyzed by “experts.” Who are these experts? Who do they work for? They trot out some Russian character, which means he’s an expat, and I’ve learned that one can never, ever trust expats to tell you what’s really going on in the country they emigrated from without verifiable confirmation.

      The only other person they quote is a British diplomat. Yeah, real reliable source there. Ultimately, the people pushing this have vested interests in a new and prolonged Cold War so they can enhance their stock portfolios in the MIC. And the cultish character of Democrats grows even more.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Conservatives have gone full circle.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Fortunately for the TV, I hadn’t had my first cup of coffee yet and was insufficiently caffeinated to do any actual damage to the poor thing.

      The commercial has Clyburn bragging about the Congressional Black Caucus and standing with Marcia Fudge to elect blShontel Brown, who “will work with Joe Biden,” as opposed to calling him a bowl of shit.

      The DNC is going all in on blind loyalty to the Party, and I predict Obama his own self will endorse Brown in the last week or so of the campaign if he thinks she has a chance of winning, or is informed that the Democrats have successfully reprogrammed enough ballot scanners. Assuming the latter doesn’t happen, the election will be interesting. Will loyalty to the national party Trump genuine affection for Nina Turner, who represented the State Senate district here so well for so many years?

      Will national Democrats’ support outweigh the support of prominent local Democrats, such as Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson and State Senator and Minority Leader Kenny Yuko? Will Turner’s opposition to an old racist white guy in the White House help her instead of hurt her in this mostly Black district?

      Anyway, what you don’t see in any of the reporting is Turner’s campaign, which is very visible here where it counts. She’s coming out with strong attack ads of her own, but you won’t see any reporting on that. Most of them focus on her pathetic cheerleader opponent’s inexperience and the lies her supporters, like Hillary and Clyburn, are spewing. And she beats the shit out of Brown on ad placement.

      For example, I can’t watch a Jimmy Dore or Kyle Kulinski video without seeing a Shontel Brown ad. Seriously now, how many fans of either of those two are stupid enough to vote for Brown? Nina Turner advertising there, and on Breaking Points, makes sense. Brown, not so much.

      Nina’s ads are also reaching older voters every bit as much as Brown’s–on local news and shows like Jeopardy! If the election isn’t rigged, I still think Turner will win this thing.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Medhurst is Syrian, right? The casual ignorant arrogance of modern day Americans towards the entire Middle East is no worse than the arrogance of the British and French a century ago who arbitrarily decided Syria would henceforth be a colony of the French Empire.

      He has every right to be infuriated, but none to be astonished.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Who funded this? Was Big Pharma involved in any way? They’d love another few billion for a booster vaccine.

      Even if this information is true, I still wouldn’t bother with a booster. I had the Covid in 2020 and had the full Moderna vaccine this year. Anyway, the symptoms for me were just a cough that wouldn’t go away and some fatigue. I’ve had worse colds. I think I would be acting unreasonably if I were to fear a Covid variant.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Perhaps I should consider getting a booster shot of smallpox vaccine before it makes a comeback there. Idiots.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      That ought to tell you something.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      An American-backed dictator, holding onto power illegally according to Haitian law, protested by the Haitian people for months, is murdered by Colombians who sound like they would make a perfectly good death squad against unarmed civilians with some guy shouting it was a DEA raid.

      How deep is the DEA in the swamp with Colombian drug cartels and other South American Fascists? What was the dead president’s connection to them? Is there someone else involved with ulterior motives? I know the answers to none of these questions, but I know sending in the Marines is the wrong answer.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      The only thing this Democratic-“led” Congress has done for my family is the $1400 checks after Lyin’ Biden promised $2000. Maybe there’s some other little thing they have done that I have perhaps forgotten. But what would have pushed me to the polls to support Democrats–extended pandemic relief, Medicare-for-All or even lowering the Medicare age, the PRO Act, raising the minimum wage, even just repealing the fucking Trump tax cuts, a real infrastructure package–did they enact any of those things?

      No, and they won’t because they never had any intention of doing so in the first place. They already deserve to lose. The only question is, do they deserve to lose more than the Republicans? I don’t think so, but that’s probably what will happen.

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      Bribe the corrupt government into letting foreign(like American) companies in(I’m sure there’s some Big Agra action in Ukraine), exploit the fuck out of the local labor, export the product to the most lucrative markets, then import expensive stuff the locals could have made or grown at home for themselves, while simultaneously impoverishing them.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      I have no idea how accurate it is. I speculate it is an attempt to get Obama to jump in and help her, and if he does, a lot of Black people in this district who cannot admit to themselves how badly Obama conned them will do what he says.

      Turner is starting to come out with some hard-hitting ads herself now.

      Anyway, Ohio is an open primary state with a first-past-the-post system. Independents and some Republicans may well vote for Turner in the primary because Nina Turner said voting for Biden was like eating a half of bowl of shit. Just saying there’s a possibility the smear campaign will backfire on them.

      I also hope that if Nina wins, she won’t forget, like Bernie appears to have,  how the Democratic establishment treated her.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #434426
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      The AP article shamelessly doesn’t mention the Atlantic Council as its ultimate source, and just casually mentions the source as DFLab, fka Digital Forensic Laboratory.

      Fucking pack of neolibcon warmongers they are. And they’ll make lots of money off of all that new surveillance equipment Biden’s proposed Domestic Terrorism Act will require. One more step to a police state.

      IOW, @earthartist is correct. Still proud of yourselves, Biden voters? Sorry, I’m just a little sensitive because Biden’s thrown in my face all the time because I live in the Ohio 11th, and just thinking of the Fascist motherfucker and his hive pisses me off.

      Anyway, I’m not going to let those Fascist bootlickers make me afraid of fucking QAnon. I’m far more afraid of being made to go back to work in the office every day than I am of those idiots.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      Talk about unmitigated gall. Either the American Empire or its allies are engaged in behavior as bad or worse than anything the Chinese are even alleged to be doing, yet I’m supposed to cheer for the “right action” taken by that same imperial government just because I’m American?

      Ain’t happening.

       

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    • #434160
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      Democrats usually want to lose because their consultants, think tanks, and fundraising outfits like Act Blue make more money when they are out of power. I’m not sure whether that applies to their Republican counterparts or not, but the Republicans are only messaging about bullshit culture war issues(like the teaching of CRT in schools, unisex bathrooms, etc.) and all the sudden they’re worried about the deficit.

      But the Democrats are in power, they will do nothing to help working class people, and are therefore likely to lose at least the House in 2022.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #434158
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      At least that was over with in a couple of days. Our enlightened government has managed to torture Assange for years, and they won’t rest until he is safely dead.

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      First Hillary, then Biden.

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    • #434010
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      If it’s right that there really is a populist revolution taking place in Haitian slums, then it is even more likely that Warmonger Joe will unilaterally send in the Marines. Smedley Butler is still saying “I told you so.”

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      It’s neoliberal capitalist all the way. It is one thing to study and teach the effects of racism, primarily to teach children that racism is total bullshit and should not be tolerated in society writ large. Fortunately, most younger Americans already know that in their bones.

      Critical race theory teaches that all white people, consciously or unconsciously, use their race to gain privilege and power over nonwhite people, which is absolute nonsense. That’s why it’s fanning such a backlash, because Republicans see it as a way to inflame the culture war, which is their only political trick. Unfortunately, it is also the only political trick for most Democrats as well, and most definitely the Biden Administration and the Democrat establishment.

      It also teaches that racism is the cause of racism, and that is simply factually and historically false.

      I find it oddly ignorant of the author to talk about CRT as part of the struggle of democracy against capitalism, and democratic socialism against the oligarchy. It’s not. CRT is a tool of the oligarchy, not the working class.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #433968
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      Sure looks like a professional hit job. I have no evidence for this, but the CIA has got to be a prime suspect. America’s been fucking with Haiti for over 200 years. Ask Smedley Butler.

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    • #433967
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      Greenwald nukes Uygur every single time the latter dares to open his mouth about the former. I love this Greenwald line: Sometimes you feel just blessed to have morons and idiots as your enemies, and this time I feel just blessed. Ouch!

      That said, I really like these two young men on The Vanguard. They do a great job of puncturing overinflated YouTube talking head egos. I find that a valuable service.

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    • #433878
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      I’ve learned some things about my favorite, and former favorite, YouTube talking heads. Some of them have egos that are swollen well beyond their own levels of competence. Some have been proven to be complete frauds and corrupt servants of the kleptocracy(Cenk and Ana, that’s you). Some place their personal relationships above what I, and the best of them IMO, consider to be their journalistic duty. And some are cowardly on certain issues and should avoid focusing on them.

      I’ve found some new outlets for me because of all this. The Vanguard and Hard Lens Media in particular have covered this stuff in a very informative way.

      And finally, Aaron Mate’, Glenn Greenwald, and Jimmy Dore have been proven correct time after time after bloody time. I also learned that Jimmy Dore is the Viking warrior of the leftist alternative media. He just lays waste, shows no respect whatsoever to political power, and truly doesn’t give a shit, which is why his popularity is on the rise.

      PS: @scottcrowder Totally agree. TYT is about as leftist as my slave-owning ancestor who had more house slaves than he did field slaves.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #433826
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      Want to make a difference, AOC? Tell Joe Biden you won’t vote for anything he wants until he does something to legalize recreational marijuana at the federal level. Crying over one athlete, just because she is black and female, does nothing except to feed into the bullshit racialist narrative and to distract attention away from issues and policies that actually impact the lives of most Americans.

      Distraction is the whole point of this latest AOC exercise. That, and selling her celebrity politician brand.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #433810
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      “Can (CRT) influence the way that some teachers teach? Yeah,” Ridgeway says. “But that’s a good thing, right? Because race and racism are literally the building blocks of this country. So how can you not talk about it?”

      Race and racism are NOT literally the building blocks of this country, and focusing on them will not solve the fundamental problems that are caused by economic systems past and present. The concept of the white race was invented by colonial plantation owners in the 17th Century in order to divide poor whites from black slaves, and it worked. Over the centuries the slaveocracy in the South and industrialists in the North both sponsored pseudosciences to support the claims of rich Western European-descended capitalists and slaveowners that they were entitled to rule.

      It’s really little different from the claims of the feudal aristocracy that they were born to rule according to God.

      The building blocks of this country are somewhat complicated–a lust for becoming independently wealthy for many, a desire for their own land and the ability to live without any aristocrat’s approval, or for freedom of religion, and mainly for the betterment of those who saw a chance to improve their lot compared to what they had in Europe.

      In short, this country was founded by a migration, by invasion and conquest. None of those things are racist in and of themselves, and that is where CRT completely misses reality. And look at the effect it is having! It divides people based on race instead of uniting them in their common socioeconomic interests, which is exactly why it is being pushed by capitalist liberals. It is designed to fail, though I’m sure the author of this bullshit is on her way to being financially very well-rewarded by that same capitalist liberal elite.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      Prison cells are more profitable than houses for a few people. Utah has proven that housing the homeless actually costs the state less money than locking them up.

      As for “Defund the Police,” that’s a stupid slogan that is doomed to politically fail for the simple reason that it says that its adherents are for completely eliminating the police by defunding them. I don’t care what the activists say it “really” means; that’s how most people will interpret it, and they don’t want to live in a place with no police.

      Finally, crime goes down with the poverty rate. Provide the basics, and crime drops. Offer, and sometimes require, free mental health services and crime will drop. Provide people with the opportunity for good jobs and a decent standard of living and crime will drop.

      The police are clearly ridiculously overfunded. People who want to cut their budgets should get out there and tell voters where the money is better spent, not just scream “Defund the police!” and then accuse those who are turned off by that slogan of being racists or whatever, which is all they do now.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #433801
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      At least Obama gave flowery speeches that conned the gullible Nobel committee. Joe Biden has always been an avid warmonger. And now some people want him nominated just because he decided to get out of Afghanistan 20 years after he cheered on the initial invasion?

      What scum.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #433799
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      So they don’t care what happens to weapons after they’re bought. Furthermore, career military officers are eyeing those lucrative civilian MIC positions after they retire, and if the Taliban has weapons, why, that’s just more reason to purchase even more to “keep us safe.”

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #433795
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      Capitalism is a system where there is an employer-employee relationship, and the employer has totalitarian control over the workplace. Many employers don’t want to give up their power and control over their employees lives because they get off on having that power, and will fight this tooth and nail if they value power over profits.

      We will see that many of them do.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #433747
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      Well, Biden did promise nothing would fundamentally change. Promise kept.

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    • #433664
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      I don’t have to watch the video to know that! I promise I’ll watch it later, but that headline makes me wonder where Captain Obvious is right now.

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    • #433662
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      It’s far less harmful than anything the Empire will actually do to Afghanistan in the future.

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      So long as nothing fundamentally changes I’m good. (If your sarcasm detector’s not going off, you need another one)

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    • #433649
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      The sound of black powder going off is distinctly different from smokeless powdered weapons. The sound of noisemakers was like musketry, and it completely surrounded us for four hours. It was punctuated by people who did have those mortar-like things, two of whom live just behind us. We sat outside, drank beer and smoked dope, and enjoyed a pretty good show.

      There was no reason to crack down on fireworks here. The ground was damp so there was no fire danger, and in a state where guns and ammunition are legally mailed to people’s doors it seems kind of silly to have a fireworks ban. A lot of people had a lot of fun, there were no reports of injuries here(and if there were, somebody was stupid and will pay the price for that), and most amazingly of all, NO SIRENS.

      I haven’t heard a siren for three days now. It’s been nice.

      As for the hockey player, give that man a Darwin Award.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #433594
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      Working from home has saved me a couple thousand dollars in fuel and parking costs(don’t dare suggest taking the fucking bus here–that costs even more!), not to mention giving me much more time to do other things. My latest commute wasn’t that far, only 11 miles each way, but I have driven as much as 30 miles to work one way before.

      People shouldn’t be made to do that if there is a better alternative, and now there is for probably a couple of billion people around the planet.

      Most of the cries for going back to the office now are from power-hungry managers and executives who want to control as much of their employees’ lives as possible. Even profit has nothing to do with it. It’s all about power and control.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      It’s kind of hard to call for a recount or new elections when the OAS, not exactly a lefty-friendly organization, said the elections were free and fair with no indications of fraud, so Fujimora will need the military.

      The fact that a coup hasn’t happened yet shows that she doesn’t have them in her Gucci purse just yet, but I’m sure Imperial American Intelligence is working overtime to prevent a leftist populist from assuming the Peruvian presidency.

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      I like the way he described the liberal faction of the Democratic Party as the dominant one in America today, and a particular to @joeshabotnik for that handy-dandy pathetically puny catalogue of the entire liberal arsenal that is used by shitlibs everywhere against people who are actual leftists and not shills for the establishment.

      Towards the end, Greenwald, a married gay man, points out that heterosexual men in particular are vulnerable to the sort of smear Kasparian used against Dore because the liberal mantra requires belief in anything the woman says no matter the circumstances and that any request for evidence is labeled misogynistic or racist or whatever. That is absolutely true. Hell! They even used that tactic against Bernie Sanders on live television!

      Reminds me of what a Roman Catholic cardinal told Martin Luther: You are not allowed to question what you are required to believe.

      So much for enlightened liberals. They’re already waging their own Inquisition.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      Where’s Joe Biden standing up for those oppressed by apartheid?

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    • #433519
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      Look for the cries from Democrat hacks that the Plain Dealer is a Republican paper. It’s certainly a pro-business paper, and most of the people who bother to comment on its website are right-wingers.

      Doesn’t mean what they said is wrong in any way. Their critique of that little cheerleader the establishment Dems picked is spot-on. This endorsement will encourage some older people to vote for Turner, especially indies and Republicans who just want to fuck with the Clintons.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      Think that Corruptocrat gives a flying fuck about discovering “the truth?” More like having a cushy MIC board seat if he’s voted out of office or something.

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      Long live the Empire!

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      He strikes me as more of a James Burke type of conservative. Years ago some would have described him as a paleoconservative. I have never seen him advocate for imperial war, and he was opposed to the Iraq War from the beginning.

      He’s a good journalist and commentator, albeit an old-school conservative one. I’m a socialist, but I can find lots of common ground with old-school conservatives. We’ll butt heads on who should have power in the workplace and often agree on foreign policy issues.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      How democratic of them.

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      They’re all over the corporate media and the faux left. Stuff about the Nicaraguan government arresting presidential candidates who are clearly CIA fronts. Remember the ancien’ regime of Nicaragua was every bit as brutal as the one in France. The “democratic opponents” ballyhooed by the media are members of the same families of Fascist rulers installed by and for American capitalism a century ago, as eyewitnessed by one Marine named Smedley Butler.

      The Sandanistas are a huge improvement over that for a large majority of the Nicaraguan people, and they’ve made it clear they’ll fight for a better standard of living. The crazy imperialists in Washington who are convinced the Empire can win just one Vietnam-style war if only their pet theory of counterinsurgency is applied (and given infinite funding) must be salivating at the prospect.

      It is ironically fitting you posted this article the day after Rumsfeld’s death.

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      It’s not a performance-enhancing drug any more than aspirin is, and it’s legal in many states and countries. You’re right, the marijuana ban is just plain silly now, for all sports. Who can blame an athlete for smoking a bowl and soaking in a hot tub to relax after a good workout or game? How is that any worse than having a beer?

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      The universe is just too damned big for it not to, so the majority is sensible on that question. As for intelligent life existing anywhere near us during the lifetime of the human species, well, that’s a different matter. Thousands of civilizations with interstellar travel could have risen, thrived, declined, and gone extinct before the first homo erectus started a fire. That means it’s possible that there just aren’t any around us right now.

      Or maybe it means there’s time travel or multidimensional travel or I don’t know WTF all else.

      As for UFOs not being a threat, color me with the majority again. I see no hostile actions from whatever these things are. I hear “near-misses” talked about, or radars or communications being interfered with, but I don’t hear about collisions and crashes and deaths of human aircraft.

      I certainly see them as no reason for additional funding for the MIC.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      I also like Jimmy Dore and Krystal Ball and detest Uygur and Kasparian. I watched the whole thing last night, and I must admit I really don’t give a fuck. However, I do understand why Kulinski doesn’t want to get dragged into the middle of the back-and-forth between Dore and Mate’ vs. Cenk and Ana. He worked professionally with all of them, and like he said, he’s an introvert.

      Introverts sometimes have trouble expressing themselves on topics they are uncomfortable with, and poor Kyle looked uncomfortable as fuck. I think all he needed to do was show those videos of Dore and Uygur defending each other against the same charges they are hurling at each other now, with the clear message of “Don’t drag me into it or I’ll embarrass you again.” And then ended it like he did, with a “I don’t care what you think of me” and a “Fuck off.”

      But I’m an extrovert. I would have done it in five minutes. Or I’d be like Jimmy Dore and just go full nuclear because sometimes I dig doing that.

      Anyway, Kulinski does his job as far as journalism and commentary go, IMHO, and I’ll let this insignificant squabble between YouTube talking heads slide.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      The Russians are coming!

      Yet again, the NSA proffers zero hard evidence, and once again, the corporate media reports it as believable. Which it ain’t.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #432721
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      But then her 8 allowed sessions were up, so she was prescribed some anti-depressant. The doctor’s office insists she submit to a drug test to prove she is taking the antidepressant before they will see her again. She doesn’t want the medications, only the therapy because that was helping, but must wait a year for another 8 sessions.

      So, drug-free therapy NOT ALLOWED. Drugs so Big Pharma can make a profit? REQUIRED.

      Evidence of a failed state, Part 1026.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      So far. If nothing else, we may be faced with climate refugees in a few years, which will bring its own crises.

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      I haven’t seen any attack ads, just Brown standing next to Biden or Obama with someone saying how she will work with Joe Biden to accomplish his agenda, and that she is the “true Democrat” in the race.

      An interesting approach for this district, where neither Joe Biden nor Kamala Harris are exactly popular, and most Black people say that we “don’t need another Obama,” even if they say so reluctantly. What can I say? Reality bites. Anyway, Brown’s running on loyalty to the Party. Reminds me of what old Soviet commercials might have looked like if the Communists had allowed real elections.

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      So this “pro-democracy” Hong Kong paper the Fascist press is crying about was never more than a sensationalist right-wing tabloid. Looks like a Murdoch publication to me.

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      Powerful photos, though.

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      But why pay professionals when you can pay prison labor a few dollars a day? I’m sure Kamala Harris is outraged at the firefighters who quit, too.

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      @satan Incoming.

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      After the fall of Saigon: When Washington did the right ...

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      For the reasons detailed below, we hold that, when a prosecutor makes an unconditional promise of non-prosecution, and when the defendant relies upon that guarantee to the detriment of his constitutional right not to testify, the principle of fundamental fairness that undergirds due process of law in our criminal justice system demands that the promise be enforced. 

      It’s Fifth Amendment-based. For the full decision you can go here(LINK).

       

       

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      @hasslecat is right. Like a Dutch frigate is any real threat to the Russian naval base in Sevastopol. Like the Russians had any intention of actually sinking the ship. Like the Dutch actually had any intention of actually doing anything other than thumbing their noses at or maybe mooning the Russians.

      It’s stupid, yes, but there’s no way anyone is actually going to go to war with nuclear-armed Russia over this nonsense. It’s just dick-waving.

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      Look for Obama, or his wife, who has clearly forgotten where she came from, to come in about two weeks. They’re running out of time. The election’s August 3rd, early voting starts next week, and Turner keeps airing television commercials while Brown’s have slacked off some. Ruh-Roh!

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      Be afraid! Homeland Security needs more money and to curtail your civil liberties in order to protect you! And who supports it at the time usually depends on whether they are cheering for the Blue or Red Teams.

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      Stupidly so by most liberals and activists. Most people hear that and think they want to completely eliminate the police, which is not what is usually  being advocated. Corporate media always picks the activist slogan most likely to divide and alienate people, and Black Lives Matter and Defund the Police are perfect examples of this.

      And stupid activists fall for it every damned time, defend the idiotic slogans accusing anyone who criticizes the things as being racist or worse, and fail to achieve what they say they want to achieve. Which is the whole point of the exercise from the perspective of the oligarchy.

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      There. That’s much easier to understand now, isn’t it? Amazing what a little editing can do.

      And yet again, there’s that liberal insistence on racializing everything. Instead of talking about eliminating poverty for all, they only talk about the problems of poverty in minority communities, making it much more difficult to address the source of the problem, which is the capitalist system itself. Faux progressives like the Squad who promote the oligarchy’s racialist narrative are part of the problem and never part of the solution.

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      I don’t remember, but it’s accurate. Our news media just reports whatever government spokespeople tell them about foreign countries as fact, and they unquestioningly repeat the whatever it is as unquestioned fact. This certainly wasn’t the case in the 60s and 70s, but I remember being surprised when it became commonplace in the 80s.

      A local San Antonio news station once referred to the Sandanista government in Nicaragua as “Communist.” I called the station, told the young-sounding woman that they weren’t Communist as the Soviet Union was, but an indigenous socialist movement. She laughed at me. Believe it or not, I was shocked. Probably because I was young.

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      How to make the perfect Margarita frozen | Wine Dharma

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      I think that’s a better headline, IMHO. Agree with you 100%. This shit is pointless. In this particular case, it’s to make shitlibs feel righteous. Of course, Republicans can do the same thing for shitcons.

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      Covid is a convenient excuse to limit travel and freedom of assembly. If I trusted Western governments it would be one thing, but I mostly don’t. Plus I’ve had Covid, and it wasn’t nearly as bad as the actual flu. Not buying it.

      It’s not like it’s smallpox or polio, FFS.

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      Got it.

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      It doesn’t make any sense. If they’d had this technology 15 years ago, we’d be speaking Russian or Chinese by now.

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    • #432161
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      The US government’s whole case was that Julian Assange helped Chelsea Manning in obtaining classified documents. Now their only witness to this admits he is full of shit. The Biden Administration has lost its only legal basis for charging Assange with espionage at all.

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      Who cares?

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      McKinney’s not nuts, though whoever this Michael Luciano is puts together a bunch of quotes, almost certainly taken out of context, to make it look that way. Besides, Israel is an apartheid state and at least a large minority of Israeli Jews ARE calling for the genocide of Palestinian Arabs. That’s not a crazy statement at all, just an observation of fact.

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      For good reason. Our corporate media lied our way into the Iraq War, Wall Street bailouts, and contributed to the disaster that was the pandemic. I don’t believe the corporate media, so I can’t blame the Trumpers for not believing it, either.

      In spite of the 24/7 corporate drumbeat after the election, these people did not trust them, and foolishly trusted that obese charlatan Donald Trump. The federal government had as completely failed them as it had those of us on the left. That’s the root of that mostly orderly “insurrection” that wasn’t, not white rage, as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs recently stated and the liberal media is proclaiming.

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      Rush is a bullshitter extraordinaire.

      Seriously, I bet this isn’t so much about the ability to bullshit as the ability to make up good stories based on realities that aren’t nearly as entertaining without Irish bard levels of embellishment. There’s a difference between storytelling and bullshitting. Many people know it when they hear it.

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      The US doesn’t care what the UN thinks.

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      There will probably be more resistance to such a move from the British military now, especially since the word got out that Boris overruled the Foreign Office for the latest fiasco.

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      Well, he did say nothing will fundamentally change, so there’s that.

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      Right now, I think he’s lying through his teeth and will support his good friend Lyin’ Biden yet again. He can easily prove me wrong. Up to him, not me.

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      I hear PT Barnum laughing.

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      They’re not exactly offensive weapons. That said, this effort to get Ukraine into an anti-Russian NATO alliance is just plain foolhardy.

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      Get used to it. The federal government’s not going to do jack shit about it.

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      I don’t know what those things are, either. I can hardly blame Mittens for expressing the same sentiments.

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      She just wants better customer service. Talk about an upper middle class twit!

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      Central air is a wonderful thing. Window units help, and are a lot more energy-efficient than they were in the 70s and 80s. Air-conditioning is now a necessity in the West. Get used to it. It will only get worse.

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      That message resonates in this district. Most of  who aren’t working poor are barely middle class. This is why she will win.

      What did you think of that little cheerleader the Democratic establishment picked, @satan ?

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      What else? Oh, Assad Bad! And my favorite from a LOTE-voting friend of mine: “I don’t want to talk about it. It really has nothing to do with my life, so I don’t care.” When Trump did it, it was of course outrageous.

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      They got the idea from the British in the 19th Century.

      From a tactical military point of view, however, one Russian task force would be unable to dominate the Mediterranean. Even if the Americans and British completely withdrew, there are two navies with bases on the Med who could raise holy hell with the Russians if they actually did anything to interfere with trade or whatever. The French and Italian navies are pretty damned good, and the Greeks are plucky. Even the Spanish have some fine frigates and corvettes.

      Just saying the Europeans can take care of themselves, even with the Russians as a naval opponent, and they really don’t need the Sixth Fleet to back them up.

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      Further in the article, 66% of Americans want the government to do something about wealth inequality. IOW, 2/3rds of us want to see the federal government redistribute some wealth our way. Yet, knowing this, Biden and Congress won’t do anything to raise taxes on the obscenely rich.

      If we lived in a real representative democracy, something would have been done about it long before now, but we don’t. Elections don’t matter at the federal level, which is exactly how oligarchies are supposed to work when they allow voting at all.

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      @jimlane In fact, that goes right along with Obama’s “Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good” tripe, and Obama was a corrupt Fascist bastard, just like Biden, only more articulate and better-looking. Now it’s just a DNC propaganda line, as is accusing leftists of demanding perfection.

      The Democrats, as a whole, never fight to do what they say they will do when they are in power. Never. They haven’t since Bill Clinton lied his way into office in 1992. They don’t play hardball because they don’t want to. They want to fail. They want to lose. Their little world of lobbyists, think tanks, consultants, and the corrupt politicians like Biden sending either themselves or their family members through corporate revolving doors where they collect millions for passing GO make more money when they are out of power. I can make the same case for Republicans, though they don’t seem to really try to lose as frequently, though they might be now.

      They make more money then because people who think the way you do send them more money when they are out of power because Republicans Evil! Your party, at the national level, is nothing more than a money-laundering operation. It needs to be rendered extinct before it renders us extinct. Just one example: How fucking crazy is it to be poking at the Russian bear, a bear with ICBMs, I might add, for absolutely no other reason than the obscene enrichment of a few thousand people?

      I take that back. Your party isn’t just a money-laundering operation, it’s a pathologically insane money-laundering operation. But what else can one truly expect from a capitalist political party? Sure, yours is better than the other one on a lot of social issues and some triangulated financial help defended by guilt-inducing propaganda that works on some of those incapable of critical thinking(and not even most of them). However, it’s not enough if this country, and probably global civilization, is to survive.

      As for this whole “Well, this is the best we can do” and leftists are being unreasonable attitude, I’ll let Robert E. Lee speak for me:

      There is no time for that! There is no TIME! 

      Time ran out on Robert E. Lee, and probably will upon all Americans in just a few years. Do you not see this? This is why I wish I could get on a longboat and row up the Delaware. Washington needs a good pillaging. Or at least the threat of a good pillaging.

      Congratulations! You may now be a proud new member of “potential domestic extremists” simply by your association with me and JPR, according to the domestic terrorism guidelines of the Biden Administration. Why? Because I just used violent metaphors to illustrate why I want our entire federal government structure completely rebuilt from the ground up, which of course requires the destruction of the existing federal government.

      That makes me a “potential domestic extremist” according to Biden and Harris. And you, too by national security state standards. Doesn’t that make you feel just special? I know it does me.

      Trump’s gone, dude. And Biden is worse because you refuse to see what he is doing, even though his administration and the corporate media come right out and say it. Whatever, I’m going out to eat. I’m done here.

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      Other than that, though, it’s an excellent article. Nathan Robinson is just a liberal hack. A shitlib who shits on anyone to the left of the Democrats, which is the entire left.

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      How utterly worthless the progressive Dems have become.

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      Those who think there is one are deluding themselves. It’s factually not true.

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      I think I’ll stay here.

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      Jimmy Dore is the only person on that panel with a consistently logical and rational position. He’s also the only one who didn’t believe Obama’s reasons for wanting to wage a war against Syria. The other three just assume Obama’s being honest.

      This was in 2013. After what happened, and didn’t happen, in 2009, how could anyone with half a brain still think Barack Obama was an honest and sincere politician?

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      Lyin’ Biden rides again. His one truth is nothing will fundamentally change. And this is Mitt Romney’s plan. Just like Obamacare was. What’s the difference between the two parties again? Be proud, LOTE voters, be proud!

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      Amazing how many people refuse to see that.

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      Well, that’s science for you.

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      We could use a few Pedro Castillos ourselves.

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      I ask where it will end. Allow this, and the next step will be internal travel passports just to leave one’s state, passports that can be revoked for…I don’t know, how about the potential for being a domestic terrorist under Biden’s new definition for that? Into which category I fall because I believe the entire federal government has to be fundamentally changed.

      If seasonal flu isn’t enough to require such a thing, then neither is Covid. Few people are wearing masks where I live now and social distancing is done, thank the gods, and I like it that way.

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      I subscribed to the Nation for decades, starting in the 1980s and all the way through Bush II. When they started defending Obama for doing the same things that Bush did, I canceled my subscription. It’s a shame. The Nation has been around since the Civil War.

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      Because they won’t serve it while the national anthem is being played. The last time I went to a Browns game I almost got into a fight because I refused to stand for the national anthem and told the big, fat whiner behind me that I was a veteran and wouldn’t stand for the anthem of a country that puts kids in cages.

      I would have fucked him up, too, but this big Black guy saved me from possible injury by standing up and telling the yahoo and his buddy they would have to go through him. I’m six feet tall and he towered over me.

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      Quite the contrast to Lyin’ Biden, who has only told the truth once in the last two years, when he said nothing would fundamentally change.

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      I think CRT is complete bullshit, but that doesn’t mean I haven’t studied it. That’s why I think it’s bullshit.

      Seems like Milley was responding to some wild accusation about military officers being “woke.” Whatever that means.

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    • #431197
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      The British have admitted their destroyer crossed the traditional 3 mile limit, but since they don’t recognize Russian annexation of Crimea, they say they were in Ukrainian waters. How effing silly is that?

      The Russians conducting naval exercises near Hawaii are a response to just this type of arrogant provocation.

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    • #431191
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      A partially collapsed building is seen early Thursday, June 24, 2021, in the Surfside area of Miami, Fla. A partial building collapse in Miami caused a massive response early Thursday from Miami Dade Fire Rescue, according to a tweet from the department's account. Miami Dade Fire Rescue is conducting search and rescue. Authorities had no word yet on casualties, or details of how many people lived in the building. (AP Photo/Wilfredo Lee)

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    • #431104
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      Fucking joke. The State of Ohio used them for about a year, and it was fucking disastrous. State systems were constantly getting hacked. Then the bastard fled the country because he was wanted for tax evasion?

      You go right ahead with that warm welcome, @satan .

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    • #431102
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      Wasn’t he wanted for fraud or something?

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    • #431098
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      Let’s see:

      Cannon to right of them,
      Cannon to left of them,
      Cannon behind them
         Volleyed and thundered;
      Stormed at with shot and shell,
      While horse and hero fell.
      They that had fought so well
      Came through the jaws of Death,
      Back from the mouth of hell,
      All that was left of them,
         Left of six hundred.
      Actually, casualties were slightly less than 50%, but it was most definitely a totally unnecessary military defeat for the British at the hands of the Russians. And it happened in Crimea.
      The French were allied with the British during that war. I haven’t heard of any French warships meandering around the Black Sea, have you? Guess they’re not impressed with futile cavalry charges. I don’t think the French want to have anything to do with Anglo-American intervention anywhere near Russia’s Pearl Harbor on the Black Sea.

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    • #431023
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      Unless they’re Goldman Sachs or something. For that matter,  @davidthegnome is correct. Anyone expecting the current oligarchy to just peacefully give up their wealth and power is delusional. That second coming of FDR promised by Bernie Sanders is pushing the most authoritarian crackdown on any dissent against the system since Joe McCarthy’s House Unamerican Activities Committee.

      At the very least, the oligarchy must be in literal fear of their lives before they’ll give up power, and maybe not even then.

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      Let me know when the aliens land on the Washington Mall. That would qualify.

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      As a descendant of an artilleryman in Washington’s army, I have a problem with that. I’m for DC statehood on that basis alone. That’s reason enough. Racial and gender equality has nothing to do with it. That’s just a culture war issue played up by the oligarchy.

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    • #430999
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      .

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      This is nothing new. There were the Palmer raids under Woodrow Wilson and the Republicans of the 20s, the Red Scare under Truman and Eisenhower, the Terrorist Scare under Bush and Obama, and now the everybody who is not a capitalist scare under Joe Biden.

      Never mind the crumbling bridges and roads, lack of health care and housing, and totalitarian working conditions of most Americans. If you do mind, you are a potential terrorist.

      IOW, Biden and the Democrats are Fascists. Be proud, LOTE voters! Be proud! Wait, what’s that? I’m disturbing your brunch? Oh, so sorry.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #430980
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      Everything Biden said about Putin and Russia describes Biden and the American Empire far more accurately than it does Putin and Russia. In fact, it’s perfect.

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    • #430818
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      My favorite part is at about 13:55 in, where Biden tells the press(American only) that “They gave me a list of who to call on like they always do.” The old cockswaggerer comes right out and admits that the whole event was carefully staged and that he himself is managed!

      Cockswaggerer is a word I just made up. It can be applied to armchair warriors like Biden who like wave their dicks around and show how tough they are.

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    • #430812
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      It is Joe Biden who is pushing new domestic terrorism standards which label anyone who is anti-capitalist, anti-corporate globalist, possesses a firearm, or who says the current federal government needs to be fundamentally changed as a political extremist who is a potential domestic terrorist.

      Not Trump. Trump never did that. Biden is doing it right fucking now, and liberals don’t give a shit. I suppose they trust their President and think a Republican will never win again, just like they did from 2009-2016.

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    • #430801
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      Just got a text asking for $5 to combat “powerful special interests” who recently came out to oppose her nomination.

      It’ll work, too.

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    • #430800
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      Maybe they were worried about them getting busted by a bunch of farmers, like Venezuelan fishermen did to that batch of mercenaries there a couple of years ago.

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    • #430799
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      These politicians do live in the gutter.

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      .

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    • #430792
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      Worked for me after some kid sicced a Rotweiller on me when I was the cable guy in a vulnerable position. I killed the dog. But quickly. The cops wouldn’t even arrest me. They may have arrested the kid for all I know. He did it to impress his friends, and he was maybe 13. Mean little shit.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #430760
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      Now I know this latest UFO brouhaha is a ploy to further increase the funding and power of the MIC and the national security state. Talk about a man with zero credibility!

      Hey John! Got any emails on that?

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    • #430754
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      Will this bullshit never end?

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    • #430736
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      Not before. My ancestors helped found Missouri. Show me.

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    • #430735
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      JFK, LBJ, RFK, HHH, all of them.

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    • #430730
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      Until then, he’s just farting through his mouth.

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      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #430705
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      About three weeks ago now, there was a mushrooming of Shontel Brown signs in front of a few houses, public tree strips near major roads, but none in front of local businesses, which is interesting because the favorite local politician of local small businesses, State Senator Kenny Yuko, endorsed Nina Turner out of the gate. I am sure it is no coincidence.

      For about a week, Brown ads blanketed local news broadcasts and Jeopardy!. Then those ads continued, but there was always a Nina Turner ad right after them. Brown looks like a high school cheerleader bouncing and flouncing around, practically giggling with glee, declaring how she will work with and get behind Joe Biden. There are a few attack ads, saying true Democrats want Shontel Brown and that Nina isn’t a real Democrat. The SV bots are now swarming Nina’s Facebook page with the comments you would expect.

      Then Hillary Clinton endorsed Shontel Brown. BIG oops. The Clintons are hated here. Two days later, the Turner campaign announced that the day after Shrillary’s endorsement of Brown was Turner’s best fundraising day yet. Turner’s campaign is now the one dominating the local airwave commercials. More of her signs are going up, so far all in front of private residences. I expect to see Turner signs in front of Republican-owned small businesses soon. Local Republicans like her because they know that both Biden, and thus Obama, not to mention the Clinton crone, hate her.

      I have seen no new polls, but the election is only six weeks away, and it’s pretty clear Turner has the momentum. I will be very surprised if she doesn’t go to Congress.

       

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      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #430584
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      Turner’s fundraising hit record levels for several day after Clinton’s endorsement of Shontel Brown. Gee. I wonder why.

      Anyway, the Clintons are the kiss of death for candidates in Ohio.

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      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      No, they are not. They are dyed-in-the-wool neoliberals, Reagan Democrats, servants of the kleptocracy, whatever you want to call them, but they are not weak. They are doing exactly what they want to do and what they really believe in.

      Besides, it’s kind of hard to exert any pressure when all of the progressives Chomsky speaks so highly of never fight the Democratic establishment. He was never pushed on this, of course, considering one of the interviewers was Ana Kasparian, who is as much of  a journalist as I am a physicist.

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    • #430259
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      They just aren’t honest enough to admit it.

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    • #430258
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      Or the Squad forced a vote on Medicare for All in exchange for voting for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker. Or have done anything at all to actually advance progressive legislation. Introducing bills and then not fighting for them, loudly and publicly, does not count.

      I do not believe them. I do not trust them, and have absolutely no reason to do so.

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    • #430257
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      It’s no less full of propaganda than the history that Ronald Reagan wanted to see taught in public schools and that John Wayne movies exemplified. All white people were BAD. The founding principles of the United States were genocide and slavery. Europeans have always been racists. Capitalism had absolutely nothing to do with slavery or racism or the westward expansion of first the colonies and later the United States, it was all the fault of genocidal white slavers.

      None of that is objectively true. White racism was deliberately created by the ruling planter class as a means to divide poor white farmers and sharecroppers from Black slaves. In fact, part of this push for division was the abolition of white slavery, which existed up into the mid-1600s in the American colonies.

      I have no objection to the brutal truths of American history being taught in schools, but it must be taught in the context of the times which are studied. Any “history” that applies the moral standards of the present to the people of the past isn’t history. It’s a propaganda tool for the present, and that’s all it is.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #430254
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      Plus, the entire local establishment will be dead set against seeing him as mayor again. I just don’t know if he can win.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #430098
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      That makes them good guys. Friends of the Empire. Kind of like the old friends of Rome. So we won’t interfere in their internal affairs. Designated enemies of the Empire are a different matter.

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      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      If Biden needs his vote, Bernie will cave and give it to him.

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      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #430089
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      That means he will never lift the sanctions, though he might increase them. He’s a warmongering, Fascist imperialist. And he can easily prove me wrong by lifting the sanctions, and no, one-quarter-measures still won’t be good enough for me and I’ll still damn the man.

      He can prove me wrong by lifting all the sanctions on Venezuela, to name just one country that needs to happen with. Syria and Russia are just two others.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #430082
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      Nothing has fundamentally changed, except for the profits made off of it by law enforcement and the CIA.

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    • #430080
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      That’s all. This guy lies at least as much as Trump.

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    • #429986
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      Oh, yes we do!

      This is a potentially huge positive development. If the state can regulate how Google prioritizes its ads, it can also regulate how it prioritizes its information, ie its search algorithms.

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    • #429918
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      How embarrassing for Bernie. This guy’s linked to a group that calls for Israel taking all Palestinian land and driving all Arabs out of Israeli-occupied territory. If that means genocide, that’s fine by him. And Bernie is hopeful.

      Well, Bernie has pushed the Russiagate BS and said that Joe Biden could be another FDR, so I guess this is no surprise, either. Sanders has become such a good little sheepdog for apparently nothing in return except the friendship of his good friend Joe.

      Sad.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #429890
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      As a generation a little younger than my own once said, “Lame-O!”

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      Let’s all jump up and down and send the Squad money now!

      I saw Pramila Jayapal, however her name is spelled, saying that all progressive legislators can be expected to do is to introduce legislation. Then she said she was opposed to bringing up her own bill for Medicare-for-All on the House floor!

      The progressives we have in Congress are worse than worthless. Fraud Squad is an appropriate moniker. But keep sending them money, suckers!

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      And there was never any need for the eastward expansion of NATO. All NATO is now is a tool of the American Empire and its allied oligarchs in Europe. The United States should withdraw from NATO, and the Europeans are quite capable of defending themselves. They have planes and tanks and nukes and ships and everything.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Nice to see some recognition of reality from a congresscritter.

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      I’m lucky. I get Juneteenth off for the first time with pay this Friday. The county declared it a paid holiday. I supposed they’ve pissed off their employees so much over the last year–refusing to let us work for home for months, then relenting when DeWine was notified they were violating his pandemic rules, then requiring most of us to go back to the office with little notice and expecting us to be happy with that.

      And remember, Juneteenth didn’t happen because of nonviolent noncooperation and peaceful protests. It arrived in Texas backed by a fleet and an army. It grew out of the barrel of a gun.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      Waaah! I’m so confused!

      Not.

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      I never watch the Olympics anyway. There’s too much talk, way too many commercials, and in the US way too much focus on all the USA! USA! crap and which already wealthy athlete will score the best advertising contracts.

      I could not care less. Let the Japanese do whatever they want.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      Normally, that means keeping someone out.

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      Democrats are every bit as corrupt as Republicans. That’s how oligarchy is supposed to work. This article is a great example of gaslighting. Maybe grifting as well.

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      Not to mention a glutton for punishment.

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      Let’s see. My quick take on these things for what little that’s worth, but it’s fun:

      Fake moon landing. Well, I watched it live when I was 11 and met Buzz Aldrin once. There’s not a doubt in my mind he was on the moon.

      CIA killed JFK. That’s a religion with a lot of people. I don’t believe it because there is absolutely no evidence from the time before the assassination that the CIA had any reason whatsoever to want JFK dead. None. Most of it started when his brother decided to run for President, and I don’t believe that son of a bootlegger, either. This one will probably never be resolved, and will fade away.

      Covid-19 is a hoax. Utter nonsense. I had it. I know it’s not a hoax. My stepdaughter developed pneumonia from it. She knows it’s not a hoax, too.

      Flat earth is an oxymoron, unless you’re on the Great Plains.

      The CERN already killed us. How would we know?

      Hollow earth. That’s a fun one, but there sure is an awful lot of evidence to the contrary.

      Amelia Earhart. I don’t know what happened to her. I lean towards the Japanese killed her theory, but I can’t prove it. And, having sailed the Pacific, I can say it’s a big ocean. There’s an awful lot of water out there. If she crashed into the ocean, we’ll probably never know.

      Bigfoot. Don’t know.

      5G dangers. That’s just a rehash of cellphones will kill everybody, which made it into The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. I imagine the microwave radiation can’t be good for you.

      Vaccine nanochips. Sorry, but the Bill Gates hologram in my brain that appeared after I got vaccinated tells me I can’t talk about it.

      Chem trails. Does that apply to fluoridated water turning us into Commies, too?

      Weather control. Thor and Zeus have more control over the weather than people, no matter what my cats say.

      Illuminatus was a Lord of the Rings for paranoids, according to the authors. ‘Nuff said.

      Paul is dead. Come on, guys! He’s old! Give him time.

      Aliens built the pyramids. Well, at least that one has redeeming social value. It gave us Stargate, and I like that show.

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

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      MSNBC, CNN, Bezos Post, New York Times, and, oh yeah, the New Republic. I didn’t read the whole article, but it looks like this guy likes the party loyalty line–Vote Blue No Matter Who!

      And he treats it like it’s a new idea? Where’s he been?

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      No real property for you, millennials and younger people! You are not worthy.

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      And he won’t do a damned thing that his oligarchical masters don’t like. Nothing will fundamentally change.

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      Look at it from his point of view. Here he is, somewhere in Europe, pal-ling it up with a few fellow leaders and the wife really enjoys this shit, and now he has to talk about one of this shithole countries where people don’t have their heads on straight. Libya? Syria? Ask Biden to tell you the difference and he’ll think something like Ragheads or camel-jockeys, who cares? We need people in there who’ll do what they’re told. Like I do. 

      It doesn’t matter to him. They both have Arabs. They both have oil. They both need to be taught a lesson that the Empire is their boss.

      IOW, classic imperial hubris, displayed in a most pathetic yet honest manner thanks to Alzheimer’s. And they say there’s no justice in the universe.

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      A nation nearly as populous as the United States itself? Good luck with that.

      As far as sanctions go, how much of American trade goes through the Straits of Malacca between Sumatra and the Malayan Peninsula? The Indonesians could easily close that strait. It’s not much wider than the Straits of Hormuz. I know. I’ve sailed through both of them.

      The Empire is crumbling, and this current bunch of idiots in the White House and Congress doesn’t have a clue of what to do.

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      Be afraid! Trust the USA!

       

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      Because they don’t want it to happen anymore than the Republicans do. Bernie’s gaslighting and sheepdogging again.

      Go back to looking adorable in your mittens, Bernie.

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      I’m not talking about SWAT teams. I’m talking about every police car being a muscle car or a big-assed SUV with cops strutting around wearing body armor while directing traffic or providing security in a high school or library. That didn’t start, in my own anecdotal experience, until after 9/11/2001, and it didn’t become ubiquitous until Obama(and Biden) ramped up military equipment going to police forces.

      That wasn’t about drugs. That was all about turning the police into an occupying armed force in service to the oligarchy in the name of protecting us from “terrorists,” domestic or otherwise.

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      I wonder if they’re celebrating on SV. (Checking) Well, there is a thread, but right now it’s new, and so far just making pre-emptive fun of the inevitable CTs. I’m sure a “Good riddance!” post will appear before too long.

      It is a hate site, after all.

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      Still feeling morally virtuous and superior, Noam Chomsky and all the rest of the Blue Team cheerleaders out there?

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    • #429288
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      Or maybe one of the European leaders’ relatives.

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      Same goes for Bernie, the Squad, and everybody else who campaigned for the Fascist SOB. Warren’s words are worthless.

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      Some of their descendants still do. Scots, and I’m 45% Scottish according to Ancestry DNA, still eat haggis, which I tried once and found absolutely disgusting. No, it was exactly as disgusting as menudo, and some Latinos, and Anglos!, actually like that chewy garbage.

      OTOH, I like hot dogs, and we all know what goes into those things. Plus I had dog-ka-bob once in Korea, and liked it so much I had seconds. Ever since then sometimes I wonder how some annoying neighborhood dog would taste if it was properly marinated, slow-cooked, and skewered.

      IMHO. And that’s all taste in food is–opinion, taste. It’s not an attack on someone’s culture to say one doesn’t like some food associated with that culture, or does like some food prohibited by that culture. And, well, I’m a social libertarian, and that’s just how I see this. If someone doesn’t like the same food you do, then don’t eat with them. It’s not that hard.

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      This wasn’t a serious coup attempt. Even the Beer Hall Putsch in 1923 was a more serious matter than the 1/6/21 thing, and even that was aimed at overthrowing a state government(Bavaria), not the German federal government of the time.

      Look at what Trump told those people. He said to march to the Capitol and he would meet them there, and somehow he would magically continue as President. They only got into the building because absolutely no effective preparations for such an event had been made, in spite of the media and Trump talking about it for months. Once they were in the Trumpless Capitol, the protestors wandered around more like confused tourists than anything else.

      Sure, there was a little bit of violence and vandalism, but not much. Two deaths? One cop and one protester? That’s it? Now, if they’d set the building on fire, this would have been something else, but they didn’t. Then they left as soon as the DC Police showed up.

      If this was a coup attempt, and I’m loathe to call it that at all, it was a “diet coup,” as Kyle Kulinski described it. I see it as more of a gigantic clusterfuck.

      Was there ever any real chance of Biden not becoming President? No. And Trump didn’t even try to stop that from happening. All he did was stage one more opportunity for him to inflate his narcissistic ego by seeing his adoring fans. That’s what this was–an exercise in narcissism from Trump and gullibility from his fans.

      By saying it was a coup attempt, Chomsky is enabling the equally Fascistic Democrats to ram through a new domestic security law that takes away even more of our civil liberties, but I suppose he’s just too damned old to care about that. Shame on him. He should know better.

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      If the stewards of the American Empire were smart, they’d be negotiating on some global currency right now that would ease the transition for the American people, and themselves. But nooooooo…they’ll hang on to, and use military force, to maintain the Almighty Dollar until the system shatters, and the consequences will probably be very bad for Americans and much of the Third World for a time.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      This article just gives more credence to the title of Richard Wolff’s latest book.

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      I’ll have to read the whole thing later, but the headline itself is hilarious. I’m sure both Democrats whined like mules. Karma. Sometimes, you gotta love it.

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      With a fascist Democrat the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist Democrat and his group more money or more power.

      The same applies to Trump and the Republicans, of course. But they’re both Fascist parties, so that only makes sense.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      I mean, Jill Stein was in the same room as Vladimir Putin once! The horror! And someone from the radical Black Agenda Report! Why, Rachel Maddow fans will be feeling the vapors!

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      AFSCME does the same thing. The only substantial thing they’ve delivered for the last 20 years is good(by lowly American standards) health insurance. Take that away, and they’ve got nothing. They also don’t want to do anything else, because unions at the state and national levels are corrupt as fuck. Union officials on six figure salaries see their membership as the enemy, not as clients.

      Yet one more reason I can’t stand liberals. They refuse to see this. Most don’t have to, because they’re so well off they’ve never had to be in a union. But they do know how to cheerlead.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      They’re not posting all of the show’s segments until the next day, and sometimes two days, later. If at all. They also cut off Krystal and Saagars’ breaking points(formerly their radar) segments so that the comments by the other person are deleted out. Sometimes that is the best part.

      In spite of this, Breaking Points is getting more daily views than the New York Times’ video news. They are a clear threat to corporate media and the latter want them eliminated. I think that’s pretty clear.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      In the end, it won’t matter. The United States will eventually stop supporting the apartheid government–I’m not about to make a prediction of when that will be, but it will happen–and the Israelis will have to cut a deal with their Palestinian neighbors or be driven into the sea, just like the South African whites did with their Black neighbors.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      Ain’t that the sad and sorry truth? And Johnstone can see it from Australia! Maybe distance gives her perspective, I don’t know, but that’s sure what I see and hear. The really sad thing is that Republicans are no better–all they’ve got is the culture war.

      That’s the plan of the oligarchy, of course. Keep Americans’ attention focused on bullshit culture war issues to divide the working class and the shrinking middle class against themselves. Divide and rule.

      Caitlin’s right in saying the global Western oligarchy is especially focused on keeping the American people in line. If we ever successfully revolt, they’re all fucked.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      I like the cat better.

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      Zionists have destroyed its previous meanings by twisting it into an excuse to act like Nazis themselves.

      How about anti-Jewish bigot? Would that not cover those who don’t like Jews and shoot up synagogues?

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      They are Israeli standards. Our cops started being trained in Israeli policing methods, the same ones they use to oppress the Palestinians, back in the 90s. Who was President then? Who started militarizing the police then? A Democrat. Who wrote the Crime Bill? Lyin’ Biden his own self, that’s who.

      The Democrats like this style of brutal policing as much as the Republicans do. They’re not going to do a damned thing about it.

      Yes, our cops need to be completely retrained. In fact, I think they need to be replaced and trained in a new way. This current bunch is hopeless. Maybe it’s a good thing Guantanamo is still open. We may need it again.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      We should be planning on abandoning the place now, not trying to save something that simply can’t be saved.

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      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      But the media loves our pigs! No way they’ll say that police training and mentality is what really caused all of this, and Bureau of Prisons police at that! Why does the Bureau of Prisons have a police force? Shouldn’t they be prison guards or something?

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Why weren’t they demanding his prosecution in the 90s instead of treating him like just another wealthy celebrity? Pah!

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      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      I bet they didn’t. Feds can be so arrogant sometimes. And whoever was in charge fucked it up, and the Secret Service didn’t help matters any.

      Was this a spontaneous thing Trump decided to do on the spur of the moment? I can see how that could have caused confusion with the Park Service people and the Secret Service. If that did happen, it still doesn’t mean that anyone in the White House ordered the Park cops to attack the protesters.

      In which case it was just pigs being pigs. They like to beat the fuck out of people.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #428583
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      The vaccine has gene-reprogramming technology, you see. Your chromosomes are being fucked up right now. Next thing you know you’ll have moles breaking out on your forehead that forms a pattern that looks like this:

      666

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      It’s not like we live in a democracy or anything, after all. The oligarchy is happy with Biden in office, therefore he will remain in office no matter what these deluded Republicans come up with.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      It’s not the just the Russians saying that, it’s the international chemical weapons inspectors whose reports were suppressed who are saying that. Most of them are Western Europeans. Them, and other European and American whistleblowers. And they proved the coverup, which Aaron Mate’ reported on.

      Because that’s what journalists do. Cenk or Ana don’t know the difference between a journalist and a used car salesman, which is really Cenk’s natural calling. We’d all be better off if he did that instead of conning people into giving him money while pretending to be a progressive.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Yeah, stay classy, Ana. She reminds me of my 13 year old daughter throwing a temper tantrum. TYT did a lot of good at first, but Cenk Uygur has clearly returned to his conservative, warmongering roots(he led a demonstration in support of the Iraq War when he was in college, per himself), and Ana Kasparian is just another worthless, fashionable and hypocritical liberal who should be shunned and ignored by all leftists.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Quack!

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      There, fixed if for Paul Street. The Senate is a reactionary institution whose only purpose is obstruction of the popular will, and should be abolished as far as I’m concerned. Of course, I’d get rid of the presidency as well.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      “If you brought your children with you, WHY?”

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Loud, nasty psychopath; I’ll spare you the details. Her daughter just got an order of detention for her, and the cops and paramedics literally carried her out of her house and into an ambulance today, screaming for someone to help her all the way and demanding to speak with the cops’ manager. The sergeant just held up the court order, and away she went.

      I expect to hear celebrations later.

      I love the second one. It would never go viral because both parties are white, but it’s a classic. Dude’s trying to get her attention because she drove off from the gas station and pulled the hose right out of the pump and it’s still attached to her car. And she’s threatening to call the police on him for stalking her, oblivious to the hose she had to have almost tripped over when she got stopped and got out of her car.

      And of course it’s the millennial dude’s fault! Great stuff.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      And we called Elizabeth Warren a snake! She’s got nothing on this creature.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      It didn’t even knock his mask off. Perhaps I should offer slapping lessons to the French.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      Nader’s talking about landlines, though, and for that, for some reason we still have Spectrum internet wireless phone service, which used to be Crime-Warner. At least we usually have service with them–when we had AT&T phone service dropped so often and they tried to overcharge us so often that we dropped them.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      I know damned well that there were tens of thousands of Bernie voters in Texas who refused to vote for either Biden or Trump. If Bernie had been the nominee, Trump might have squeaked out a win in Texas, but Biden never had a chance and never gave a good goddamn.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      The article cites a Federal Reserve study which showed that workers are not turning down jobs due to enhanced unemployment benefits except in the lowest of the low-paid jobs, and that the states cutting the benefits are hurting their own economies because they are taking spending money out of people’s pockets.

      This isn’t about money. It’s about power. The capitalist oligarchs want to force Americans to work for crumbs, and Joe Biden is more loyal to that oligarchy than was Donald Trump.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      Will Bernie actually do anything, like place a senatorial hold on Biden’s appointees, to put any pressure on Joe Biden to do anything remotely progressive?

      Of course not. Won’t happen. They’ll bow down every time when Biden wants a vote. And the sun has set on the Sunrise Movement so far as I’m concerned. They, too, shamelessly shilled for the current Fascist in the White House because Trump Bad.

      And Democrat partisans still have the nerve to mock Republican hypocrisy. It’s quite amusing in a way, really.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      I detest the man. He’s nothing but a Democratic Party hack.

      PS: Krystal and Saagar’s new show is called Breaking Points, and is now available for free on YouTube.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

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      He up front about being a Fascist bastard. IOW, he’s much more honest than Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi. He’s a good soldier providing cover for his fellow Democrats, out there front-and-center taking all the flak thrown at him by the slightly left-of-center wing of the party known as “progressives” or The Squad. He stands firm against the Party ever deviating from its true Fascistic principles.

      If Democrats really hated this guy, they’d kick him out of their party instead of embracing him every six years, and Joe Biden would be in West Virginia telling voters what a piece of shit Manchin is. They don’t hate him. They love him, and progressives still in that party should take a long, hard look at themselves for being members of the same organization that has the two Joes at the top of its heap.

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      I read a diary written by a Mexican officer who was at the Alamo named De la Pena. He wrote that Crockett and about a dozen other defenders of the Alamo surrendered and Santa Anna had them executed as pirates(There’s a great backstory to that). Jim Bowie was definitely a slave trader. There are written records from the time about that. Sam Houston definitely smoked opium, as did El Presidente Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna. They were high on it when they signed the treaty giving the Republic of Texas its independence.

      And Travis was a rake, not to mention a bad gambler, who abandoned his wife and children to go to Texas and seek his fortune, namely land that he could put slaves on to grow cotton for him.

      I learned all of this stuff by the time I graduated college. The University of Texas has all sorts of primary and secondary source materials on the subject back in the 70s. None of the knowledge was hidden; people just didn’t talk about it.

      Oh. And the scene from the better 2004 movie with Billy Bob Thornton where Santa Anna executed all of the Mexican rebels his army caught on the march to San Antonio instead of killing just one out of ten of them? That happened, too. Plus, 15 or 20 defenders of the Alamo were Mexicans themselves, who wanted the Anglo promise of democracy. Juan Seguin was very real.

      The Alamo is another of those stories from history that is delightfully more complex than the popular legend.

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      The thing is, the oligarchs will do nothing until they actually get hit in their most sensitive spot–their wallets. Even then they may not care because they’re already set for life, or so they think.

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    • #428136
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      They should be given American citizenship and moved here, with their families.

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      Former Secretary of Defense. Former CIA Director. Former Chief of Staff to Bill Clinton. Of course he’s going to imply UFOs are from Russia or China to scare people into supporting increasing the war budget even more!

      Pure, unadulterated bullshit. If anything, this is even worse than Russiagate.

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    • #428099
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      There is a film out there called “Who moved my cheese?” about two mice living in a maze where the cheese was always left in the same place. The mazemaster(ie the corporation) moves the cheese. One mouse refuses to adapt and starves to death, the other is resourceful and innovative and creative and all that and finds the cheese.

      The narrator comes right out and says that when management does something employees don’t like, like cut their pay or refuse raises or eliminate a perk, management has no choice because they must act in the best interests of the organization, so if employees don’t like it, that’s totally their fault.

      That stupid short film was required viewing at two government agencies I have worked at, but was clearly designed for the private sector. Management loves it.

       

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      This particular video is little more than a fluff advertising piece, but it’s an introduction and doesn’t pretend to be anything else, so I have no problem with that just this once.

      I did like what Saagar said about trying to bring people together instead of dividing them, and about showing everyone who is really doing the things that make their lives unnecessarily difficult. Or words to that effect.

      I like the civil philosophical divide on this show, and how both anchors try to find the common ground between those two political philosophies.

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      And the Democrats don’t WANT to do anything about it. They want to lose the midterms, and they will succeed brilliantly.

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      IMHO, of course.

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      Or for refusing to come down hard on thei own Senators who are bucking this? Nope, he only blames Republicans, therefore he is posturing.

      Again.

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      Then again, I’m not a virologist, and now I see different virologists saying different things.

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      They just can’t help projecting, can they?

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      I have had recent experience with feeling unreal. It’s vicarious, but still. My wife recently did an Ancestry DNA test. The results came in about a month ago.

      It was obvious that her dad wasn’t her dad, and she’s in her 50s and had never had a clue. Her uncle told her that his brother was not in fact her dad when she asked him; even knew who the biological dad was. He died six years ago. Weird. It has been a terrible emotional shock to her. For one thing, she’s into genealogy and had spent 20 years researching ancestors who weren’t even hers.

      She’s gone from fits of rage to crying and depression and a general feeling of stepping into the Twilight Zone. OTOH, her daughter was delighted to get in touch with some new cousins who live in the area, and they seem like very nice people.

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      Lobster’s always smelled disgusting to me. Probably my body trying to tell me something. I ate lobster once and loved the taste, and some outstanding Louisiana Cajun gumbo with shrimp in it another time, and was sick for two days each time. I learned.

      Not that I needed the warning. I’ve never eaten bugs of any kind nor had any desire to.

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      Thanks, now I know how to look them up. Interesting choice of name, isn’t it? Like they’d reached the breaking point with their previous employer? At least, that was the first thought to pop into my cynical mind.

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      That’s funny, right there. The Italians could take the Ukrainian army out. Don’t even get me started on what the Germans or the French could do to them. Zelensky, thou art full of shite.

       

       

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      Just to name one thing of maybe 10,000 that I could list.

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      Potentially, tens of millions of people could be evicted in the next three or four months. Do you really think they’ll all just happily go to the shelters or the parks or the streets? This could have a massive impact on history, and yet few are even talking about it. It’s like the comfortable people who voted for Biden are just going back to brunch and just forgetting about it.

      I asked one of my liberal friends about what would happen when the evictions start up again, and he said, “Well, it will be bad,” and refused to discuss it further because he didn’t want to hear that Biden or his precious Democrats had the power to do something about it and just don’t want to. He also said he didn’t want to hear about Republicans winning the midterms due to Democrat failures to deliver.

      Naw, he’d much rather think about his next international vacation and to brag about it.

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    • #427323
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      Oh darn.

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      Nothing has fundamentally changed.

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    • #427317
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      Most people still believed what the government and the mainstream media told them back then, with reason. Dwight Eisenhower and John Kennedy were not Donald Trump and Joe Biden. The federal government has lied to us so many times just in the last 30 years that there is good reason not to take anything they say as truth without some confirmation.

      Besides, polio was a much, much worse disease than Covid. I had a cousin who survived only because my dad got him into the only iron lung in Texas at the time, and even then he wound up a paraplegic. Back then, scientific advances were heralded, and vaccines still seemed miraculous. They still are, in a historical sense, but are far more commonplace.

      And they used to buy us beer to vote! I wish they still did. I’d vote for sure.

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    • #427313
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      And they’re supposed to do the converse. BTW, they’ve been predicting this sort of thing most of my life, starting up again in the 90s and steadily intensifying the propaganda.

      IOW, this is diversion and distraction.

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      Silly Obama. Gibbon he is not.

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      The good news is there has been a shift in American public opinion towards Israel, and it’s not good for Israel. Kyle Kulinski talks about it here if anyone’s interested:

       

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      Himmler would be so proud.

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      This guy couldn’t end apartheid there if he wanted to. I have no idea what his position on that issue is, but it doesn’t much matter.

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    • #427062
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      And there was no treatment available that we could afford. None. They are still untreated–I don’t know if my ex is even alive or not since she went all paranoid and went off the grid–and my daughter ended up in public housing on SSI, but never got the treatment she needed.

      And every day when I walked to work downtown through homeless and obviously mentally ill people every fucking day begging for or demanding handouts. In Denver, long before I moved to Ohio where I encountered the same thing.

      And my current wife needs expensive dental work. Thousands of dollars worth. I’m thinking of a trip to Canada for her.

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      It’s badly needed in times like these.

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    • #427056
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      You’re being suckered, Segami. IMHO and all that.

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      I don’t go in for the notion that all European colonists arrived on the shores of the Americas and Australia with genocide in their hearts, because they mostly  didn’t. And they were more technologically advanced with more efficient organization than the peoples they dominated for a time. To say otherwise is politically correct nonsense. Sorry, Caitlin.

      As far as UFOs go, it sure does look like the release of information Harry Reid triggered is being manipulated to increase the MIC budget, and she’s right that looking for ways to kill them is an incredibly stupid thing to do when we don’t even know what the gods-damned things are.

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      My brother-in-law lives in Seattle. When my wife called him the last time his wife said he was out watering the lawn. My wife immediately said, “In Seattle?

      Apparently so. This is what the worst drought in over a thousand years looks like. This is what climate change looks like. What’s next? Mt. Rainier taking out Seattle? Mt. Hood taking out Portland? The Big One in LA?

      No way I’ll move to the West Coast, that’s for sure.

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      For one thing, every current and former Democratic state senator from Cuyahoga County who endorsed anyone endorsed Turner. Guess they don’t care what SV thinks.

      Speaking of which, if you are so inclined, and I know you are, @satan , check out the meltdown SV’s having over the news. Sure enough, they’re questioning the validity of the poll. They’re also ignorant idiots who mostly don’t live anywhere near here. Turner’s been immensely popular for many years around these parts, and her famous comment about voting for Biden being like eating half a bowl of shit instead of a full one was incredibly popular here and helped her campaign because it made her look independent and honest.

      On that score, nothing has fundamentally changed with how people here see Nina Turner.

      This district voted against Trump. It will vote for Nina Turner. This election is all over but for the cheering of many progressives and the wailing and gnashing of teeth by Fascist Democrats. Please do cry me a river, SV.

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      I don’t know if it will work, for it has never been tried on a national scale, but I’d love to give it a shot.

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      But if you think these topics are in the wrong forum, please report it.

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      Krystal and Saagar themselves thanked the owner of Hill Rising in their last video there, but what else can one expect? Both of them were class-conscious, and pointed out that the same people–the oligarchy–were screwing over progressives and conservatives alike. I figure that could not be tolerated by the power elite, so off they went.

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      Harry Reid ordered the Pentagon to release this stuff back when he had real power, and they finally and reluctantly did. Besides, it was leaking out anyway because there was simply too much film, etc., and too many people knew about it. So out it came.

      I suppose it could be turned into a psyop, but I doubt it would be a very effective one. Most people don’t think UFOs are real anyway, so they won’t pay that much attention to this stuff. They’ve got bills to pay and groceries to buy and all that sort of mundane thing. If it’s anything nefarious, it’s an attempt to get more money for the MIC, which is also nothing new.

      What this mainly is is conspiracy theory fodder, grist for the CT mill, and I see that millstone is merrily spinning away.

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      I was an IFF radar technician, among other things, when I was in the Navy. So now they call it a datalink. OK. Anyway, UFOs don’t have them. They never have, which is part of the reason they remain unknown.

      The video creator does, however, demolish the theory that the Nimitz pilot just saw another F-18. Maybe it was a weather balloon.

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      They’ve done this before, and not so long ago. I don’t think it worked then, but I don’t remember.

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      US liberals are orders of magnitude more outraged about a small group of wingnuts making people nervous in the Capitol building for a few hours than they are about the fact that their government is constantly murdering people around the world.

      Amen, my Australian sister.

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      From what I understand, neither of the other two politicians mentioned here any better than he with respect to Israeli apartheid. Nothing will fundamentally change.

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      He said Aaron Mate’ is being paid by the Russians.

      The Democrats and their paid supporters, like TYT, in the media, have already reached full McCarthyism. The fact that the same sort of liberal who once rejoiced to see the Blacklisted return to the big screen now supports political censorship just shows this socialist the worthlessness of liberals. This sort of behavior does not help my family’s material interests, you see.

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      Ryan Grim is nothing but a Democrat Party shill. I will not be watching him at all. He’s a disgusting human being. IMO and all that.

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      Try telling that to Democrat loyalists, though.

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      Biden’s no FDR, that’s for sure. Shame on people like Sanders who said there was even a chance of that.

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      Or words to that effect. I remember one of the big arguments was that Biden would be better on the environment. Ha! The only promise he will keep is that nothing will fundamentally change.

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      Adam Schiff talked about the imaginary need for that on 1/7/21. It is no coincidence.

      Domestic terrorists will be defined as anyone who opposes the established oligarchical order, as decided by politicians and the oligarchs who run social media. If and when this law passes, it will be anti-capitalists, antiwar people, and anti-police violence people who will be the most heavily targeted, not the right wingnuts.

      And it’s mostly the Democrats who are pushing this in order to expand the national security state. And people wonder why I refuse to vote in the Democratic primary because I don’t want to be listed as a Democrat in the public record.

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      The oligarchs sometimes need big fires that cost them money in order to pay attention.

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      The fact that some of the same military chiefs urged JFK to invade or bomb Cuba just 4 years later gives the story credence from the beginning.

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      Scary thing, hope, but I wish them well. They’ve been through more than enough.

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      Very basically, he assumes that when anything bad happens, that the CIA or some other American, or at least Western, intelligence agency is behind it. If not the intelligence agencies, then the corporations buying off corrupt government officials. It’s always Western imperialism at fault, which means that the rivals of that imperialism, such as the Russians and Chinese, are always innocent and have the best of motives at heart.

      IOW, he’s an example of typical American dualism. If the American government is bad, then its rivals must be good. It’s a pattern that goes back since I’ve been seeing people post this guy. This time, the Chinese must be entirely innocent because it’s all some deep, dark, CIA-or similar agency plot.

      It ain’t necessarily so.

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      All of this stuff is coming out simply because there is too much stuff and too many people have known about it for too many years to keep it quiet. That said, I still don’t know WTF these UFOs are.

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      This isn’t the first time they’ve flown planes out of it over the Mediterranean, not by a long shot.

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      Download Supertramp - Crisis? What Crisis? (1975) - Rock ...

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      But never for doing anything for the working class like increasing the minimum wage or passing a public option.

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      @sffh We haven’t had one of those for awhile.

      I only have one quibble, David. I don’t think any coverup of how Covid originated will be the most terrible conspiracy in history by a long shot, simply because Covid wasn’t that deadly. Well, it wasn’t. It is just a cold on steroids. Maybe literally for all I know. Anyway, since I had it, I’m not afraid of it. And I get my second shot in about 2 hours.

      Everything else, though…yeah, you’re spot on.

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      This is what I was waiting for, some real journalism on just whom this “martyr for freedom” is associated. The Azov Brigade or whatever is among the worst of the Ukrainian neo-Nazi groups, and this guy fought with them in eastern Ukraine!

      I do not approve of a passenger plane being forced down by a government in order to arrest a dissident, any dissident, but the Western press owes its consumers the whole story. Another good job by the Gray Zone.

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      Did Sanders not say that he would do what Biden wanted? He’s sure kept that promise.

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      Videos like this are just one reason why.

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      Busted by cookies. That is funny.

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      I always knew he was a white collar criminal. Not just me, everybody in New York and tens of millions of other Americans. They could have impeached Trump over this stuff instead of the inane shit they actually used, which was always intended to fail. This, though, this might be the real thing.

      If they can get a conviction. Intent’s very difficult to prove in white collar criminal cases.

      Because white collar criminals write our laws, I suppose.

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      They try down there. They really do.

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      There is no free market on any large scale in this country. Most markets are rigged and dominated by a few monopolistic corporations.

      The article also says we haven’t quite reached feudalism, but that is exactly where our ruling class wants to go. They do want to bind employees to their jobs so they can exploit them even more, just like old landed aristocrats bound serfs to the land. Fortunately, they are running into resistance.

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      The White House notification of the foreign weapons transaction to Congress was made on May 5th. According to law, Congress has only something like three weeks to reject such a proposed weapons transfer. In this case, the deadline for either the House or Senate to reject it was Friday, May 21.

      And, the Foreign Relations Committee can sit on it for ten days, letting the deadline pass. Bernie Sanders waited until the day before the drop dead date to introduce a resolution that he knew had zero chance of reaching the Senate floor. Shambolic, symbolistic shit for his suckers. If he was serious, he would have jumped right on this shit.

      That’s all this ever was. An empty gesture.

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      PLO, PFLP, Hamas, none of them could exist without Israel. Ironic, isn’t it?

      There’s no need of a resistance unless there is something to resist.

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      And hide the stash in a secure location. Otherwise a cat will eat it and sleep for hours with a big smile and a loud purr.

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      What risk? These guys’ profits were guaranteed in advance by the federal government. I don’t see much risk there. A McDonald’s worker making French fries is at greater risk from grease splatters than any risk these newly-minted oligarchs ever experienced, probably for their entire lives.

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      I’ll stick to my 1951 colonial and $550 a month mortgage payments, thank you very much.

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      On Turner’s, I’d say about 90% of the comments are supportive, though a large minority of those have reservations, many about whether Nina will stay Nina after she’s in Congress or sell us out like so many other so-called progressives. Most of the rest are standard SV-style attacks: Turner disrespected Joe Biden, Turner disrespected the Democratic Party, Turner is not a loyal Democrat, Turner disrespected (insert name of Black Misleadership Class Asshole here).

      About half of the comments on Shontel Brown’s Facebook page, in which she looks like a bubbly high school cheerleader more than anything else, are either critical or statements of support for Nina Turner.

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    • #425096
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      I’m glad I voted for the Green guy.

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    • #425095
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      Provoker of Violent Medicine.

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    • #425070
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      Where Biden’s carefully selected Black Defense Secretary came from, and will no doubt go back to.

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    • #425068
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      We just open a door and let them outside into the yard, where they roam around not only our yard, but the adjacent neighbors’ as well. And they hunt lots of chipmunks and field mice and rabbits. Kinda hard to hunt on a leash.

      As for walks, every once in awhile one of our cats will follow us for blocks when we go for one, meowing and telling us to come back home the entire time. It’s actually kind of embarrassing.

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      There was some hope for it with the Camp David accords way back with Jimmy Carter. But since then, the Israelis have carved up the West Bank into these isolated pockets for Palestinians, much like the Afrikaaners carved up South Africa into white-owned land and black “homelands” which were allegedly self-governing, even though the leaders of those homelands couldn’t take a shit without an apartheid government pass. The situation in Palestine is different only in its intense concentration.

      There’s no way to create a functional Palestinian state out of the fragments of Palestinian land left within the borders of the old British Mandate of Palestine. None. So forgeddaboudit.

      There remain only two longterm solutions. First, the one-state solution, where everybody in Palestine has equal rights and elects a democratic, secular government that separates church or synagogue and state and guarantees freedom of religion. Second, the Jewish State continues with its ethnic cleansing until it goes so far as to lose American support and is eventually swamped by the Muslims who surround it.

      Their Bronze Age god won’t save them.

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    • #425065
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      After all, one American aircraft power battle group is going to use up more energy and pump more greenhouse gases in the air than all of the electricity generated for cryptocurrency from the very beginning, I would think. Hell! Maybe just one F-35 flight does!

      We’re not supposed to worry about that, but we should stay away from crypto to show how environmentally conscious we are? That just strikes me as silly.

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      I do think it must be seen as a potential threat by the established financial elites because most of them hate it so, but that’s not enough to convince me to invest my meager savings in it.

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      Just because they can. Talk about an angry, demoralized workforce! There’s a chance I won’t have to go back, because I work in a call center with no in-person client contact, our productivity went way up, and the department head wants our office space for other divisions and teams.

      They were originally going to do a hybrid model, requiring most people to come in the office once or twice a week and work from home the rest of the time, but the Democrats running the county are not the brightest bulbs in the ceiling. I mean, they’re running this Black Biden cheerleader against Nina Turner. How bright can they be?

      They also think screwing over county workers makes them popular with those upper middle class suburban voters they suck up to all the time. The thing is, those same voters now think working from home is a great idea and the wave of the future, and they haven’t figured that out yet.

      Anyway, I get it. Being made to go back to an office when there’s absolutely no operational need to do so just sucks.

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      I think the only reason there’s a cease-fire is because of worldwide outrage, especially in the United States. The Israeli government must have been astonished, for it’s never happened before. Not like this. I’m sure the Irish parliament considering BDS, which could sweep Europe like a wildfire, was also a factor.

      Netanyahu made a big mistake by challenging Obama on the House floor. A foreign leader accepting an invitation to come to the Capitol to criticize a sitting President. That did not go over well, even with people who had always casually and automatically supported Israel without thinking too much about it. And now the same guy launches an ethnic cleansing operation while he’s under criminal indictment by his own justice system.

      Talk about bad optics.

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      Nothing stops the deer if they’re in your neighborhood. They seem to have developed an immunity to all the sprays, and if they’re hungry enough(which they always get that way ’cause there’s too damned many of them) they’ll eat everything except ferns and other “deer-resistant” plants.

      And I can’t even shoot them. We’ve given up.

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      They want to keep the issue simmering for election after election. If Roe v Wade is overturned, that would create an instant battle in every state, outrage and energize pro-choice and social libertarian voters, and probably help the Democrats, in the short term at least, far more than it would Republicans. It’s called “backlash.” And overturning Roe v Wade would cause a big one.

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      At least they’re not getting him for bestiality, so there’s that.

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      I am a socialist, and don’t like Biden because he embraces exploitative capitalist policies like the Reagan Democrat he is. But that comment about people taking the biggest risks should get the biggest rewards is total bullshit. An industrial worker, a fast food worker, a teacher for that matter, all take bigger risks just doing their jobs than the investor class does just sitting there moving money around, or earning their money the old-fashioned way by inheritance(like Biden’s contemptible Fortunate Son, and Trump).

      Nothing unexpected, of course. And I still disagree with Nina Turner: Biden’s bowl of shit is every bit as noxious as Trump’s as far as I, and the entire working class, are concerned.

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      Britain, France, Poland, Hungary, just to name the first four to come to mind.

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      Not to mention inaccurate, ID politics tripe with some blatant lies mixed in. White settlers were “allowed” to come here? Like they sought permission? Most didn’t, so there’s a lie. White settlers had to agree to join militias in order to exterminate the Indians who were already here? No, there was no such requirement, and there was little deliberate extermination, for that matter, no matter what liberals prate these days to distract us from the real causes of so many of our problems, which is capitalism itself.

      And don’t compare Zionists to my French ancestors who went to Canada as indentured servants or my Scottish ones who fled the wrath of the Sassenach after the 1745 rebellion. Neither group was thinking Quebec or North Carolina were the lands promised them by a Bronze Age myth, like the Zionists. It’s downright offensive, is what it is. (Not you, Eridani, the article).

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      @coldmountaintrail Why are these posts about the Ohio congressional primary here on a LBN story about a cease fire in Gaza?

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      Anyone who sends them money thinking that will advance progressive policy has been conned. Flim-flammed. Suckered.

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      The AP story was posted maybe a minute before I happened to glance at AP.

      Maybe Mossad was reading the reaction to the ethnic cleansing in Gaza in American social media? Not to mention that of the rest of the entire fucking planet. Or maybe things went too far, even for them? Or was it that ten year old Palestinian girl in the video that went viral and worldwide? I don’t know. I am just glad to see that the Israelis have stopped bombing Gaza for the moment.

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      That’s why I’m all for firing squads–to shoot a few cops like this. It’s the only way they’ll stop. They’re pigs.

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      That is how she got her political career started, you know. She’s a whore to power. Her statement that California prisoners should not be released to reduce overcrowding because that would cost the prison industry money will forever damn her in my eyes, far more than her nefarious behavior to launch her career ever had.

      She attacked Biden in the primary for opposing busing and for hobnobbing with segregationists, yet she’s his good little toadette now. Where is the honor in that?

      Anyway, I get the impression that the article is trying to make us feel sorry for her, or at least to empathize with her. Ain’t gonna happen. As for the vice-presidency, I offer her the words of John Nance Garner in 1960:

      Lyndon, the vice-presidency ain’t worth a bucket of warm spit. 

      She certainly proved that point when she refused to overrule the Senate parliamentarian to get a minimum wage increase passed. Kamala certainly isn’t worth that bucket of spit.

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      The commission will find that the “insurrection” was planned by domestic terrorists, therefore we need to give the national security state more power and strip away little things like freedom of speech and assembly in the name of national security. All of the liberals cheering for this bullshit now will be crying when the next Big Bad Republican uses its results against them.

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      I swear some of them are from SV. Anyway, to Nina’s page they mostly get swarmed. All they can say is that Turner is not a “loyal Democrat” and won’t work with Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi. Most of the locals pushing this narrative who have pictures are older white people. Well, they’re not exactly the majority in the Ohio 11th.

      Tim touched on what may be Nina’s biggest obstacle–she’s a Democrat. There are probably a few thousand voters in this district who will not, under any circumstances, register as a Democrat for anybody’s sake, but would never dream of voting Republican in the general. I don’t think it matters, though.

      This little girl-like Shontel Brown, county councilcritter and chairperson of the Cuyahoga County Democratic Party, is as establishment as they come, and people know it. This election should not even be close.

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      These people are totally focused on culture wars and on politicians who they think are “authentic.” The actual policy positions of the politicians they like aren’t even discussed, especially economic policy. How those politicians actually voted seem completely unknown to these folks. Identity politics posturing is all.

      In that sense, they’re like most Democrats.

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      Or maybe I should say which US Covid policy?

      Oh well, I’m done with Covid. Second shot in a week or so and then masks off June 2nd, and maybe before that if it gets too hot. That’s it.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #424149
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      I wonder how long I have before I’m in Facebook jail?

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      Neera Tanden?

      From a Politico article:

      Tanden’s appointment as senior adviser reflects a White House that is adamant about her being a vital player to their operations. Chief of staff Ron Klain has great respect for Tanden and had lobbied heavily to move her nomination across the goal line.

      Tanden will hold various duties in the White House but her focus will be handling any potential fallout from Republican lawsuits challenging the Affordable Care Act at the Supreme Court. Tanden will also be tasked with reviewing the United States Digital Service(link), a program that aims to make government accessible online.

      Full article here

      Glad Krystal and Saagar didn’t let them slip that one by. The Biden Administration just became even more malodorous. What despicable people most of them are.

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      The one promise Biden has consistently kept.

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    • #423951
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      Or perhaps he should have listened to Morgenthau a little. and given Bavaria to the Jews. That would make an interesting alternative history novel, now that I think about it.

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    • #423948
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      Warning: Sarcasm may be present.

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    • #423947
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      And that’s supposedly from CDC data. Confusing, ain’t it?

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    • #423799
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      This one pegs my Disgust-O-Meter.

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      There is a fairly large Jewish population here, with Orthodox Jews strongly represented. Normally, they vote Republican, but Ohio has an open primary, so Brown is trying to stir the pot to get them to vote in the Democratic primary against Turner. She will probably succeed, but it won’t change the outcome.

      Brown probably is starting to feel desperate. As I’ve said before, Turner is popular in this district. She is a former State Senator from here, best known for making Ohio Republicans back down on a proposal to make food stamp applicants take drug tests, and for helping overturn a state law abolishing public sector unions. She ran for statewide office once so she definitely has the name recognition. She’s also been endorsed by State Senator Kenny Yuko and Cleveland Mayor Frank Jackson, and those are HUGE. Both of them are also very popular politicians.

      Brown, OTOH, has been endorsed by a plethora of despised Democrat politicians. Richard Cordray, LOSER. County Executive Armond Budish. Contemptible. Former county prosecutor Bill Mason. Corrupt scumbag and not exactly popular with the Black community.

      Plus, Turner’s definitely raised a lot more money than Brown has. So far, I have seen zero TV commercials for either candidate; the battle is being waged on social media and Turner’s winning it.

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      Yet one more thing to keep in mind. Anyway, it makes all the media who bow down to that authoritarian bullshit state media, for all intents and purposes. CNN is no better than Pravda was.

      Maybe worse.

      My theory is that they, whoever “they” were, just made it up until I see some hard evidence. No such evidence is presented in the article, so I’m guessing they just want to scare liberals into fearing the Russians or Chinese or the Proud Boys or somebody.

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    • #423764
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      Just another bloody balls up. A cock up. A fuck up.

      A mistake. Negligence.

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    • #423388
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      If Ohio had offered me a beer, I would have been vaccinated a month earlier. As it is, there will be five new millionaires in this state. Everybody who was vaccinated has been entered in a state lottery. That works, too.

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      That makes about as much sense as anything else that comes out of Israel.

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    • #423377
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      For what it’s worth, the CDC is claiming the vaccines protect against the new variants, too. It’s probably true. Vaccines do protect against variants of viruses. That is long-established scientific fact.

      As for the timing, I believe about half of all Americans are vaccinated now–someone correct me if I’m mistaken. The CDC was saying that 70%, or was it 90%?,  had to be vaccinated before mask restrictions should be lifted not that long ago, so go figure. The timing probably is politics and corruption.

      I’ll have my second vaccination in a couple of weeks, and I’ve already had the actual disease and been exposed I don’t know how many hundreds of times since and not gotten sick. I know enough basic virology to know I can’t be a carrier. So my mask goes off in June. I’m not going to worry about it anymore.

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      I am sorry, but I don’t remember where, exactly. If that’s true, then none of this matters. The civilian contractors will get the fuck out. The mercenaries? Well, that few of them wouldn’t last long.

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    • #423152
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      I’ll have my second Moderna shot by then, and I already had the bloody Covid, so I’m quite ready to ditch the mask.

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    • #423100
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      I want younger people around me. Just in case I fall down the stairs, you see.

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    • #423082
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      Capitalist profits come from paying workers only a small portion of the value of their actual work. Even if restaurant workers were paid $25/hour, there would still be quite comfortable profits for most restaurant owners, though the smaller ones might have to give up a vacation home or one of three European or Mexican vacations or something.

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    • #423059
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      Next question.

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      The most recent leaders of that now moribund movement were Qaddafi, Saddam Hussein, and the Assads in Syria. Assad is the last holdout. And the Americans and Israelis used the worst elements of radical Islam as a weapon.

      A two-edged weapon, as it turns out and as everybody should have learned on 9/11.

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      I don’t know. Sounds like the never-Trumpers and post-Trumpers the liberal media loves to ballyhoo. You know, charming people like Liz Cheney.

      Don’t get me wrong. I’d love to see the Republican party splinter apart, just as I’d like to see the Democrats dissolve like salt in water.

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      At least AP, AFP, BBC and France24 aren’t. Yet.

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      I damned well still could with just a night stick or a staff. Anyone who can’t disable a teenager with a knife while he or she is unarmed has no business being a cop.

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    • #422779
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      Yet another sign of imperial decline: The ruling class keeps using outdated propaganda that no longer makes any sense to anyone who perceives that reality has changed. The only way not to see it is to live in a bubble, where the American ruling class lives, just like the Roman one did.

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    • #422775
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      Nobody would deliberately waste good sauce on a countertop, but Prego doesn’t count.

      I’ve become quite the Italian food snob since moving to NE Ohio. For good reason.

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    • #422759
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      To a Scottish tartan made by a weaver on acid.

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      Our media doesn’t report it as such, but forcibly evicting Palestinians so Jews can move in sure looks like ethnic cleansing to me. Hamas had to do something to please its own supporters.

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    • #422712
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      We all saw just how serious they were when they canceled #MeToo after Tara Reade came along. Conclusion: It’s total bullshit.

      And I still buy Goya beans.

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    • #422576
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      I’m definitely borrowing that term. Damn! Guess that means I might have to help the petition to get the People’s Party on the ballot in Ohio.

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    • #422557
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      He’s never been anything other than a scat back who could sometimes throw good passes. Glad I’m not a Jags fan.

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    • #422556
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      And if that doesn’t work, the smear them.

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      People are getting vaccinated, and Biden does deserve some credit for that. Add in all that Trump fatigue that had built up, and I’m sure most people like having President Biden because they no longer have to hear about the latest stupid shit Trump shat from his mouth or tweeted a dozen times a day.

      Approval ratings are fickle, though, and cannot be used as predictors over the medium term. If the housing or student loan bubbles collapse, or something like Dogecoin triggers a stock market meltdown, all bets are off.

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    • #422530
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      It was all over the place that taxes on the poor and the middle class would actually go up in a few years. Now it’s happening. But it’s still the Democrats and Biden’s fault for not reversing Trump’s tax cuts for the rich. He’s been in office for over three months. Well? Why didn’t they ram a repeal through?

      Because the Democrats don’t want to, that’s why. Most of the Congresscritters are rich, too, and they serve the oligarchy, not the people.

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    • #422527
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      Not done in secret like the government is ashamed or trying to hide who it is they are executing. If you’re going to have the death penalty, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with firing squads, and I’d much rather stand and be shot than strapped down to a table and injected with a drug cocktail through a fucking needle.

      If nothing else, those sentenced to die should have a choice.

      In short, no outrage here. We need to bring firing squads back for oligarchs, anyway.

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      Only seven of them made Wikipedia(link), and out of them only one is of consequence: Chontel Brown. Look at the endorsements. Endorsing Brown, another Black woman, BTW, are Richard Cordray(Big Loser of last gubernatorial election), Armond Budish(corrupt Democrat Cuyahoga County Executive), and Bill Mason(the corrupt former prosecutor who refused to investigate the now imprisoned county commissioners for corruption and now corrupt Chief of Staff to the aforementioned Budish).

      So if you see something about all of the other candidates, maybe three of whom have any name recognition at all, dropping out and endorsing Brown you’ll know someone like Obama is making phone calls to try to prevent Turner from winning.

      It won’t work unless Obama actually publicly endorses and campaigns for Brown, and even that’s no guarantee. Turner is very popular in this district. If Obama did that, and if she turned and fought back hard, I think she’d win.

      If there are no such shenanigans, then I will be watching Congresswoman Turner very, very closely.

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      File:Flag of Scotland.svg - Wikimedia Commons

      And I can’t blame the Scots one bit if they decide to split.

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      The Kurds want their cut of the revenue from that oil, but they also know that oil isn’t so easily accessible when there’s shootin’ goin’ on around them thar oil fields. Most of them want a stable and peaceful Iraq, especially after all these long years of war and terror and “incidents.”

      Besides that, why would the Kurds want to murder an Iranian general who had helped them against Sunni Arab fanatics? You know, ISIS?

      I’m with MoA on this one. The Yahoo story is just stenography for CIA talking points, and obviously bullshit talking points at that. Nah, Trump ordered Soleimani offed to please Nutty Yahoo(pun intended), probably his son-in-law, and definitely some neocon warmongers in the White House and military. Chances are none of them ever even thought of talking to the Kurds about it beforehand.

      The Iraqis want all American forces out of their country. This seems like an attempt to divide the Kurds from the Iraqi government, in the hopes that somebody will request American troops to stay.

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      What road does that lead to? Internal passports to cross state lines, like in the old Soviet Union? I think it’s a really bad precedent.

      But she’s opposing something that Democrats might want to consider, therefore she’s a conspiracy theorist. Brilliant. (Warning: Sarcasm may be present)


      @kentankerous
      Is the Detroit Free Press always such a rag?

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      “Critical Race Theory” is bullshit. It focuses on racism as the foundation on which both the American colonies and the United States were founded, which simply isn’t true. Anti-Black racism was created by English plantation-owners in the Southern colonies in the 17th Century in order to suppress slave and indentured servant revolts. I’m sure advocates of CRT never, ever mention that little fact.

      A large part of this early form of capitalism was based on slavery so a few people could get really rich and powerful off of cheap labor. At the time of the American Revolution, slavery was already being attacked in the North because a whole class of people saw their livelihoods directly threatened by the expansion of slavery, and because–and atheists often don’t like to admit this part–a lot of people just thought it wasn’t the Christian way to treat other human beings.

      I don’t question the presence of racism in how laws are written and enforced; it’s there and needs to be eliminated. I do have a problem with those who say that racism is THE cause of all of our social problems and will never admit that capitalism itself is the biggest such cause, and that racism is simply a tool used by the former to manipulate people into subservience.

      I also have a pragmatic political problem with CRT–it serves to divide the working class, not to mention the middle class, against itself by implicitly blaming living white people for damned near everything. That’s no way to achieve a working majority for change, and in fact I think that creating such a division in the defense of capitalism is one of the goals of CRT.

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      Dimon can look at the federal budget pie just like anyone else, and if he doesn’t like black budgets that don’t say, then he should lobby Congress to make that illegal.

      Figure the odds of that happening.

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      I learned it from Willie and Waylon and the boys way back in the 70s.

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      If anything, I might be more generous, especially to farmers who have to make huge capital investments every year to keep their farms going, and I like the idea of generational family farms being an option for people.

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      That’s an expression of liberal identity politics fantasy. America is not a democracy by any stretch of a reasonable imagination. To say it is is to ignore reality. Plus, by implication, it paints all Republican voters as racists as well, and Democratic voters as enlightened and saintly people, both of which are simply untrue.

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      Bernie Sanders isn’t radical. He’s a conservative Social Democrat. Republicans are generally Fascist, true, but perhaps the reason so few Democrats actually call them that is that they are mostly Fascist themselves.

      For example, most Democrats are quite comfortable with letting a few Silicon Valley billionaires censor political speech on the internet. That’s the government letting corporations violate the most fundamental law in this country, which is most definitely a form of Fascism. Liberals can be Fascist, too, if they support combining government and corporate power, which most self-described American liberals do these days.

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      It is a choke point, and those waters are pirate-infested. I know, I served on an anti-piracy patrol there on a US Navy destroyer. There was a Chinese frigate operating maybe 20 miles away, doing the same thing. Plus, the strait goes through or near three different country’s waters–Indonesia, Malaya, and Singapore. If just one of them gets hostile or collapses, it can disrupt all the shipping traffic there.

      It makes perfect sense for China to wish to have an alternate route.

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      Where’s my 2K, Democrats? Where’s my stepdaughter’s minimum wage increase, which is a big reason she voted for Biden? I could go on but y’all already know this.

      The dropped stock could actually be a cudgel for lobbyists to beat over Biden’s head, not to mention those of Congresscritters. Oh no! The stock market may drop! Can’t have that!

      Whatever happens, I’m pretty sure Big Pharma won’t be losing any profits. If nothing else, the Democrats will bail them out.

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    • #421641
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      Our society, and our rulers, are indeed sadistic. My county government, dominated by Democrats, wants to force all of its workers to go back to the office by June 1 because for “customer access,” and it applies to everyone even though most of us never even see citizens coming in for service.

      It doesn’t even save the county any money. It’s all about power, control, and yes, sadism on the part of these decisionmakers who enjoy being the big fish in the little pond. Robespierre had a cure for that.

      Ol’ Pierre keeps looking better and better.

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      I’m sure you’ll understand.

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      I don’t know. China has one. This would make two. And given the proximity of American military bases in the Pacific to China, our military really do like spoiled brats whining about one Chinese base on the other side of the Atlantic from the US.

      This is just more Be Afraid of the Yellow Peril propaganda. Not to mention a plea for mo’ money to the American military.

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    • #421586
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      We have to wait and see what the Biden Administration actually does. Joe Biden is just as brazen and accomplished a liar as Donald Trump.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #421585
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      The fact that so many people think so is a tribute to the power of propaganda. IOW, there is nothing leftist about the CIA, with the possible exception of its funding.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #421583
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      By the Democratic Party in the Democratic primary. It was completely obliterated in March 2020, by that same party’s machinations. My confidence in the rule of law has been utterly destroyed by corrupt politicians, bribed by corporations and the rich, who have rewritten the law so that it is so heavily weighed in the interests of capital versus the working class that it has become a shining example of Augustine’s maxim that an unjust law is no law.

      Trump had nothing to do with any of this, though Liz Cheney’s dad certainly did. Her words are without sincerity or meaning.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #421436
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      That was I belong to no organized political party. I’m a Democrat. 

      Well, that party’s certainly organized now, and it sucks big time.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #421433
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      I must admit that California recall elections are…unique.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton