Thom Paine

is based on the company trials.  They can’t state what the effectivness  would be for different time periods until they run the trials. Most likely the time difference won’t make a difference.

@enthusiast It doesn’t matter whether Trump wins or loses, the civil war has started.  I see that we have but one hope and that is we convince our elected mayors that they police are to stop all violence and no guns at protests.  In WA we need to get a bill thru the legislature and gov that outlaws guns at protests with serious penalties.

I see your point about the military but it looks to me like this will be just battles between the left and the police/neo-nazi’s/national guard and not a real revolution.  @ohiobarbarian

@djean11   My point is the DNC wants Biden to lose.

@hobbit709   Do I understand your point that we need a violent revolution?  You may be right, but I can’t see how that’s going to come about. There aren’t any castles to tear down.  The Oligarchy has the intelligence services,  military, national guard, local police and the armed neo-nazi’s on their side. How would the 99% overcome that?

It sh.ould be crystal that the DNC WANTS TO LOSE. Every one of their actions has been to piss off the progressive wing.  I am going to vote for Joe just to piss off the DNC.  If he wins then they will have 4 years of him to try to justify.

@hobbit709 “NO ruling elite in history has ever voluntarily relinquished power.”  I don’t believe that is true. The British pulled out of India.  MLK Jr. wasn’t looking for the Elite to “relinquish power”.  With no violence he won the hearts of enough Americans that the ruling elite had to adapt.  But if the protestors turn violent, that gives the…[Read more]

@jbnw  I don’t think violence advances the cause. But what’s your point?  Most of the violence isn’t by those trying to “advance the cause” and shaking our fingers them isn’t going to stop them.

The sheeple want to believe that their problems are not due to their failed “democratic government” but because of the Russians. I figure that Rachel Maddow was paid $14 million dollars to scream “The Russians are Coming” for two years. Of course MSNBC and the NYT are proved traitors to our democracy. Remember Judith Miller. One of the principle…[Read more]

To those that see a possibility of a successful revolution, please tell me how it would work.  Looks to me like the Right Wing with their guns are more than ready to defend the fascist Oligarchy.  Looks like a civil war and not a revolution.  Hell we can’t even get the fracking centrists to look badly at the Oligarchy.

@h-32  A short and to the point book.

I don’t believe the rich and powerful necessarily want us to die, but if we do, they don’t care, esp if we come between them and more power. It’s not personal, it’s just capitalism.

I have a hunch there isn’t anything Bernie could do that would be enough for some.  If he acted the way some want, he would have been out of politics decades ago. He pushes as far as he can.  When he says, “She understands what it takes to stand up for working people, fight for health care for all,” he is daring her to live up to that.  It wo…[Read more]

@sonofspy777  “Bernie figured he could do more good ALIVE, than dead in a small plane “accident”.
I think he’s right.  Don’t you?”

Yes and I am disappointed in those that are so quick to throw him under the bus for not acting like a Kamikaze pilot.

Before he made the decision to run in 2016 he spoke out and said something like: “I am willing t…[Read more]